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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] ghargh'a Doq Hud'a' je -- wa' vI' wa'DIch

Gaerfindel ([email protected])



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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/22/2014 9:19 AM, Robyn Stewart
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        On Jun 22, 2014, at 5:32, Gaerfindel &lt;<a
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/20/2014 2:47 PM, Gaerfindel
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            <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">I'm sure that by
              now everyone has seen the duel between Gregor "The
              Mountain" Clegane and Oberyn "The Red Viper" Martell. 
              That's exactly what I'm going to *attempt* to describe in
              Klingon.  Wish me luck!<br>
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          So after much hel -- particularly with the difference between
          {lung} and {ghargh} -- I've reworked the first part of the
          tale: The Call to Attention.<br>
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            {Qoy!  Qoy </font></div>
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      Is Qoy an order or a statement?  The former would be clearer with
      an imperative prefix. Also if it's an order, putting the vocative
      before the order kinda makes sense. As in: hey you, do this. 
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          <div><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font
                face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Hoch </font>jupwi'pu'! </font></div>
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        -pu' is type 2. -wI' is type 4 and spelled incorrectly. <br>
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    So basically: {Qoy!  juppu'wI' yIQoy!<br>
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            <div><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"> SeymoH
                lut.  pIlmoH lut.</font><font face="Times New Roman,
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                  DunmoH</font></font></div>
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          nuq DunmoH?<br>
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    Meh. I could have gone with just {Dun} "be wonderful", here.<br>
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            <div><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font
                  face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">'ej 'IQmoHbogh
                  lut.</font></font></div>
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          With the type 9 this becomes a sentence fragment. <br>
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    So much the same with above?  {'ej 'IQmoH} "and tragic" (lit.
    "causes sadness")<br>
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            <div><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">  Haychu'ta'
                ghargh Doq HuD je lut Samuch!}<br>
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          A comma between elements in an anded list helps readability. <br>
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    Noted.<br>
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        <div>You also need punctuation between the two sentences. yap .
          : ; ghap. </div>
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        <div>"A red/orange serpent/worm and a mountain duel to the
          death" and "I present you with the story.". </div>
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                Whaddya think?<br>
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          lut'e' vIlaD 'e' vIloS. lutvam vISovbe' 'ej lutmey vItIv. <br>
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          -Qov<br>
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    qatlho'<br>
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    ~quljIb<br>
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