tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jun 02 13:45:08 2014
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: lI'
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The difference seems to be direction WRT the speaker:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">lab transmit data (away from a place)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">lI’ transmit data (to a place)<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kruge orders Valkris to transmit the Genesis data (i.e. to him):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> De' yIlI'. DaH!<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>Transmit data. Now! ST3<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Valkris tells Kruge that she is ready to transmit the Genesis data to him (i.e. away from her):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>HablI', Su': labbeH.<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>Ready to transmit. ST3<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a bit clearer in Okrand’s “Message to Kronos”:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>Marc Okrand jIH. De' potlh vIlab.<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>I am Marc Okrand and I bring you an important message. (MTK)<br>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>ghe'naQ Daqvo' QInvam wIlab.<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>We will place a homing device transmitting this message at the site of the opera. (MTK)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">FYI, {lab} has often been used on the mailing list for “send/upload (file), post (email), etc.” vs. {lI’} “receive/download (file), retrieve (email), etc.”.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Brent Kesler [mailto:[email protected]]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 02, 2014 3:23 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is there any functional difference between {lab} and {lI'}? Is {lab} used for a broadcast, while {lI'} is used for a narrow/secured channel?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
</span>On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Steven Boozer <<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">> Klingon Word of the Day for Monday, June 02, 2014<br>
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> Klingon word: lI'<br>
> Part of speech: verb<br>
> Definition: transmit data (to a place)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Qov:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">>> I adore how when I upload pictures to Facebook it says lI'lI' in the<br>
>> spots where the pictures will appear, during the upload.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>vIlI'lI'<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>I am transmitting (the data). TKD<br>
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TKD 42: This word implies that data are in the process of being transmitted, but that there is a finite amount of data, so there will be a definite end to the transmission. The fact that the verb {lI'} and the suffix {-lI'} are identical in sound is purely
coincidental, so far as can be determined.<br>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>yIlI'<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>transmit it! TKD<br>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>De' yIlI'. DaH!<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>Transmit data. Now! ST3<br>
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Cf. also {lab} "transmit data (away from a place)":<br>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>labbeH<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span> (The device) is ready to transmit data. TKD<br>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>HablI', Su': labbeH.<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>Ready to transmit. ST3<br>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>labmeH 'evnagh Se' lo' tlhIngan QumwI'<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>A Klingon communicator sends a signal through subspace radio. S19<br>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>Marc Okrand jIH. De' potlh vIlab.<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>I am Marc Okrand and I bring you an important message. ('U'-MTK)<br>
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<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>ghe'naQ Daqvo' QInvam wIlab.<br>
<b><i><span style="color:#1F497D"></span></i></b><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span>We will place a homing device transmitting this message at the site of the opera. ('U'-MTK)<br>
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Voragh<br>
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></p>
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