tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jun 02 01:57:48 2014
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Proof that Klingon isn't just a few stock phrases.
<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>I never ask why I continue to study Klingon. Whenever anybody asks why, I find myself thinking <span style="font-weight: bold;">ram meqmey</span><span> and move on.</span></span><br></div><br>Ultimately, people must learn to accept that some people have incredibly active brains which require the constant stimulation and challenge of learning languages - and chances are, if you know English and Klingon, you are likely to want to broaden your struggle against the Great Enemy, boredom, to include the study of Latin, Japanese, Russian or Greek, just because.<br><br>I have never struggled to justify my choice to embrace the life of a Klingonist, either. I've always told people that everybody has at least one thing that they really love. It could be anything: baking cakes, playing football, poker, hypnotising
people for fun, singing, playing a musical instrument ... or it could be something serious and worthwhile such as learning another language. Any other language.<br><br>It is very difficult for monoglots to understand what would motivate anyone to learn another language, at all; let alone to want to learn any language for fun. It's like mathophobics wondering why geeks such as I get excited over the latest news article about prime numbers, or non-science geeks pondering why I get excited to learn about a new transuranic element which has been added to the Periodic Table.<br><br>If I have learned one thing, it is this: you cannot argue against willing ignorance. You can only transcend the gaps in your own knowledge through continued study, and keep your sharp blades from rusting. What other people do is irrelevant, as long as they realise that their judgment of you is also irrelevant. All you can do is to say that you will never be such a person yourself,
and strive to remain always better than them.<br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Monday, 2 June 2014, 4:56, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <[email protected]> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5976989169"><div><div>Are you suggesting that I join THEIR geeky list in order to defend MY geeky list?</div><div><br></div><div>Eeewwww!</div><div><br></div><div>It is interesting that few are more critical of unusual hobbies than those who have DIFFERENT unusual hobbies. Those
OTHER people are obviously wasting a lot of time doing something stupid, right?</div><div><br></div><div>Like, why should I learn Klingon when I could be memorizing football statistics, or collecting postage stamps or butterflies, or juggling, or playing role playing games, or video games, or canasta, or square dancing, or karate, or spending quality time in a suntanning salon, or getting tattoos or piercings, or yodeling, or memorizing old Fireside Theater albums, or learning pi out to 100 places, or tap dancing, or…</div><div><br></div><div>Hmm. </div><div><br></div><div>I already do about half those things.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, we don’t need reasons to do things. If they interest us and bring us smiles, that is enough. And it’s okay for people to do those other things, too. There are people enough to do everything, and no reason for us all to do the same narrow set of things.</div><div><br></div><div>Though the world would be
cooler if more of us spoke Klingon.</div><br><div>
<div><div>lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh</div><div>Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably</div></div><div><br></div><br class="yiv5976989169Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Jun 1, 2014, at 11:26 PM, MorphemeAddict <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv5976989169Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv5976989169gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new, monospace;">This specialized mailing list is not the best place to demonstrate the communication capabilities inherent in the Klingon language. You're preaching to the choir here. </div>
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On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:03 PM, lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv5976989169gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hearing that ignorant masses apparently think Klingon isn’t a “real” language and that it’s just a geeky thing with a few Star Trek-centric things you can say with it, I feel like telling you stuff about my non-Star Trek-centric life, in the Warrior’s tongue, for no other reason than to prove the point that the criticism is actually ignorant.<br>
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No, I won’t claim that it’s not geeky. I’m merely arguing with the assertion that you can’t speak in Klingon on a variety of topics. I also won’t promise that I’ll be universally understood. Likely, some people here will understand me easily, while some may argue with my word choices or grammatical constructions. Some of them will likely be right, but that misses the point.<br>
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The point is, here’s stuff I can say using the language.<br>
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DaHjaj juHmajvo’ tlheD be’nalwI’. ‘ev-chanDaq Dab qorDu’Daj. pa’ pawmeH, qaStaHvIS Soch rep ghoSnIS. DaHjaj latlh Qu’ vIghaj, vaj naDev jIratlh.<br>
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vengwIjDaq bommeH ghom be’pu’. Hoch DIS much. DaHjaj qaS DISvam wanI’.<br>
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tamHa’moHmeH luch vIghaj. be’pu’vam vItamHa’moHmeH luchwIj vIlo’.<br>
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jan lo’ wa’ be’. may’ron rur, ‘ach tlhuHbe’. Sirghmey law’ ‘ej mupwI’Hommey law’ ghaj janvam. bomwI’pu’ qat be’vam.<br>
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be’pu’vam vItoghpu’be’. chaq wejmaH. chaq loSmaH. qan HochHom, ‘ach Qup ‘op. chuSbe’. bomDI’ jIbel.<br>
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vItamHa’moHtaHvIS, vIqon. vItamHa’moHmo’ loQ muparHa’, ‘ach vIqonmo’ mumuSHa’.<br>
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muqaDchu' Qu’vam. chuS vaS. chuSmeH ngItlhDu’wIj vIlo’DI’ ngajchu’ nItlh wab, ‘ach nI’ vaS wab.<br>
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toH, vaS wab moj luchwIj wab, ‘ej vaS wab Qoy luchwIj, ‘ej tamHa’moH (‘ej tamHa’qu’moH, ‘ej tamHa’chu’moH…). chuSchu’choH. qoghDu’Daq ghopDu’ lan Hoch, ‘ej berghchoH.<br>
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toH luchwIj vIlo’DI’, jIyepchu’.<br>
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DaHjaj vItamHa’moHmeH, jIQapta’. vIqonmeH, vIQapta'’a’? wej jIbej. rInbe’ Qu’vam.<br>
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lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh<br>
Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably<br>
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