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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qep'a' Proverbs

lojmIt tI'wI' nuv ([email protected])



I disagree with your conclusion. I see {tu'be'lu'} to mean "one does not find" while {tu'lu'be'} means "no one finds". Semantically, one would be hard pressed to tell the difference, but they are both valid grammatical expressions without needing to make anything special out of {tu'lu'}.

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On Jul 27, 2014, at 5:00 AM, "De'vID" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> The Secrecy Proverb selected was:
>> 'Iw HIq yap tu'lu'be'
>> sufficient blood wine does not exist
>> submitted by 'angghal
> 
> Interesting that this has {tu'lu'be'} instead of {tu'be'lu'}. Both
> forms are found in canon, though a strict reading of the grammar
> favours {tu'be'lu'} (since {-be'} immediately follows what it
> negates).
> 
> We have previously:
> {SuvwI'pu' qan tu'lu'be'}
> {QuvlIjDaq yIH tu'be'lu'jaj}
> 
> The new proverb provides more evidence that Klingon speakers may
> (occasionally, for unknown reasons) treat {tu'lu'} as one syntactical
> unit.
> 
> -- 
> De'vID
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