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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Still untitled beginner story: parts 5 & 6 with translation

Robyn Stewart ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']



<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I support nitpicks for this story.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>It's true we don't know whether Sov is more connaître or savoir, but the absence of a second word after all this time kind of suggests that it covers both.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Sum qagh 'e' Sov. suggests to me that a 'has knowledge of, is aware of' sort of meaning works. I think it's weirder that the friend has to point out a restaurant in the person's own neighbourhood than that he Sovs it.</div><div><br></div><div>With respect to the alternates you suggest, -lu', and wI- are on not the syllabus. If chup is, I'll substitute it and see if I can use Sov somewhere else. Can someone suggest a usage of Sov that would not trigger this uncertainty?</div><div><br></div><div>Also missing is He (I.e. He vISov). &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>They are Terrans, so a certain amount of wittering is to be expected.&nbsp;</div><div><br>On Jul 8, 2014, at 22:34, "De'vID" &lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">Qov:<br>
&gt; jatlh jupwI', Ha'! Qe' vISov.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I don't have much to say. This is really a nitpick, but can one {Sov} a {Qe'}? Many languages distinguish between different kinds of knowing (kennen vs. wissen), although Klingon seems not to. What does it mean to "know" a restaurant? Do you mean {Qe' tu'lu' 'e' Sov}, that you know it exists? You "know of" the restaurant, is that {Sov}?</p>

<p dir="ltr">And even if it made sense, would it be something a Klingon would say?</p>
<p dir="ltr">- Qe' vISov.<br>
- wejpuH. Doj SovlIj. jISaHbe'.</p>
<p dir="ltr">- Qe' vIchup.<br>
- Ha'! maghoS.</p>
<p dir="ltr">- Qe' wIghoS.<br>
- lu'.</p>
<p dir="ltr">--<br>
De'vID</p>
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