tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Jul 01 09:49:36 2014
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] ghargh Doq HoD je -- loSDIch
quljIb:
> I know this gets confusing, but once I've got everything straight and
> grammatical, I shall put the whole thing together correctly and in order
> for you all to enjoy!!!
Since no none has responded yet, here are some suggestions...
> Herein we compare the Mountain and the Red Viper and how they stack up
> against each other:
Is it really crucial to the story that you need measurements out to two decimal points? I know that Okrand says that "a Klingon ... is never approximate" but this is a story, not a technical manual. I'd use the closest Klingon measurement; if necessary, rounding up. E.g.
jav 'ujmey 'ab SuvwI'
the warrior has a length of six ujs' (about 6'10") (st.k 10/22/97)
wej 'ujmey 'ab 'oy'naQ
Painstiks are a little over one meter long S32
> {tIqqu' HoD. jav vI' wa' 'uj 'aD. 'ej tIqqu' yanDaj. loS vI' jav loS
> 'uj 'aD yan.}
> "The Mountain was very tall. 6.1 ujs (seven feet) tall. And his sword
> was very long. 4.64 ujs (64 inches) long."
I'd combine some of these short sentences (and round up the measurements):
tIqqu' HoD; jav 'uj(mey) 'aD. 'ej tIqqu' je yanDaj: vagh 'uj.
the mountain was very tall, measuring 6 ujs. And his sword
was quite long too: 5 ujs.
I generally omit {-mey} on nouns after numbers. Seems redundant. YMMV.
> {'ughqu' HoD. Hut vI' wej cheb'a' ngI'. 'ej 'ughqu' yanDaj.
> Cha' vI' vagh cheb ngI' yan.}
> "The Mountain was massive. He weighed 9.3 cheb'a's (approx. 420-430
> lbs) And his sword was massive. It weighed 2.5 chebs (12-13 lbs)."
'ughqu' HoD; Hut cheb'a'(mey) ngI'. 'ej 'ughqu' yanDaj je: wej cheb.
> {'ej 'ughqu' may'luchDaj. mIv je DaS tuQ HoD 'ej wamaH cheb ngI' HoD
> mayluch'e'}
> "And his armour was massive. He wore full armour, which weighed 10
> chebs (50 lbs)"
'ej 'ughqu' may'luchDaj. mIv je DaS tuQ HoD; wa'maH cheb(mey) ngI'.
> {'ach Hod yan tIq puS, ghargh ghIntaq tIq law'}
> "But for all the Mountains sword was long, the Viper's spear was longer."
AFAIK you can't reverse the order of {law'} and {puS}. The {law'} element comes first:
'ach ghargh ghIntaq tIq law' HoD yan tIq puS.
> {loS vI' wa' cha' 'uj 'aD tIH. 'er'In, QIn'e' tu'lu'. wa' 'uj 'aD, 'ej
> rur ghargh tIv jat.}
> "The shaft was 4.12 ujs long (6 ft.). At one end was a sharp blade 1 uj
> (just over a foot) long and shaped like the tongue of a large serpent."
{'er'In} and {megh'an} are nouns and in a place stamp need to be marked by {-Daq}:
'er'InDaq ghargh tIn jat rurbogh QIn'e' tu'lu'; wa' 'uj(mey) 'aD.
> {megh'an, moQ'e' DuwIHommey je tu'lu'. bID cheb ngI'.}
> "At the other end, a spiked ball weighing half a cheb (roughly 2.5. lbs)."
Ditto:
megh'anDaq moQ'e' DuQwI'Hommey je tu'lu'; bID cheb ngI'.
Tagging {moQ} with {-e'} looks clumsy here. We know that on a dak'tahg:
moQDaq DuQwI'Hommey jej tu'lu'
A brutally spiked pommel fastens the hilt together. SP2
which you can just call a {moQ} for short:
KGT 61: at the end of the knife's handle ({ret'aq}) there is a spiked pommel, called simply {moQ} (sphere).
megh'anDaq moQ tu'lu'; bID cheb ngI'.
megh'anDaq bID cheb ngI'bogh moQ('e') tu'lu'.
If you really want to emphasize the "spikyness", you might say on the model of {DuQwI' pogh} "glavin, spike glove":
megh'anDaq DuQwI' moQ tu'lu'; bID cheb ngI'.
megh'anDaq bID cheb ngI'bogh DuQwI' moQ'e' tu'lu'.
I prefer the versions without the relative (-bogh} clause, though. Less wordy.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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