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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] [tlhIngan-Hol] Star Trek Phase II - Kitumba. We need help with some Klingon terms.
- From: "De'vID" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] [tlhIngan-Hol] Star Trek Phase II - Kitumba. We need help with some Klingon terms.
- Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:44:25 +0100
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<p dir="ltr">On Jan 18, 2014 7:38 PM, "Peter Walker" <<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br>
> We have run into a problem with one small part of the script where Uhura lists a series of Klingon weapons. We have tried hard to work it all out, but we are not sure we got it right. That is why I have come here to ask you Klingon experts to help us get it right.</p>
<p dir="ltr">But we're Klingon language specialists, not Klingon weapons specialists. :-)</p>
<p dir="ltr">Peter Walker:<br>
> Any suggestions?<br>
><br>
> 00:27:35,167 --> 00:27:41,451<br>
> <a href="http://youtu.be/VJouMFIAN8Q">http://youtu.be/VJouMFIAN8Q</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">A direct link to the scene in question:<br>
<a href="http://youtu.be/VJouMFIAN8Q?t=27m33s">http://youtu.be/VJouMFIAN8Q?t=27m33s</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">Peter Walker:<br>
> Script version: We can carry a knife, a sword, a bat'leth, a d'k tahg, a kut'luch, a mek'leth, a mevak, a qhonDoq, a tajtiq...<br>
><br>
> Version 1: We can carry a knife, a sword, a bat'leth, a mevak, a d'k tahg, a kut'luch, a tajtiq, a Ni'Itzu.<br>
><br>
> Version 2: We can carry a knife, a sword, a bat'leth, a mevak, a tajtiq, a kut'luch, a gt'set, a ni'itzu.<br>
><br>
> Is version 1 or 2 correct or can you suggest an even better version?</p>
<p dir="ltr">This isn't really a Klingon language question though. None of those words are in the transcription system devised by Marc Okrand, where they would be {betleH}, {ma'veq}, {meqleH}, {Daqtagh}, {ghonDoq}, {tajtIq}, {qutluch} (and I'm not sure what the other two are). But they don't need to be, since the subtitles aren't for linguists but a general audience, where ad hoc spellings of Klingon words is de rigueur. Writing {betleH} instead of "bat'leth" would actually be confusing to most people who are not Klingonists.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Version 2 seems like it's the list she actually said. She did not say "d'k tahg"/{Daqtagh}, and she said something like "gt'set" (it sounded like "chitsit" to me) before "ni'itzu" (sounded like "neet-zoo"). But I don't know what these are supposed to be, as they don't sound like the names of any Klingon weapons I know. Anyone? Maybe these are from FASA or extended canon?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Peter Walker:<br>
> The definitive answer will be placed in the subtitles used for the episode.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I think rather that what you put in the subtitles will become the definitive answer.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I can't speak for the rest of this mailing list, but I'd be much more interested in Klingon subtitles for the entire episode. I actually posted about that earlier to this mailing list:<br>
<a href="http://kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2014/January/msg00007.html">http://kli.org/tlhIngan-Hol/2014/January/msg00007.html</a></p>
<p dir="ltr">-- <br>
De'vID</p>
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