tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Feb 06 09:31:36 2014
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tul
<div dir="ltr">De'vID qatlho'. mu'tlheghvetlh vIghiItlhtaHvIS, jIHon.<div><br></div><div>I left it that way, expecting clarification if needed.</div><div><br></div><div>All examples of {tul} seem to have a sentence-as-object construction with {'e'} as in "vIq pISam 'e' vItul" ("I hope we find battle"). An alternative construction might be a clause with {-meH} as in "vIq pISammeH jItul" ("I hope for our finding battle"). The second is as concise but it seems clunky. Maybe because "Hope isn't a plan."</div>
<div>~'eD</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:15 AM, De'vID <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Bellerophon, modeler<br>
<<a href="mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br>
> Any canon use aside from the three sentences in TKW that all end "tul Hoch<br>
> tlhIngan?"<br>
> nuq tul 'op tlhIngan 'e' vISIv.<br>
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I think you were going for "I wonder what some Klingons hope?" But I<br>
would parse your question as "What do I wonder some Klingons hope?"<br>
That is, there is some specific thing you're wondering that some<br>
Klingons hope, and you're asking us what (we think) it is, as if it<br>
were some kind of guessing game.<br>
<br>
{nuq} is a question word that plugs into a sentence where you'd expect<br>
your answer to be. I doesn't really work for "I wonder what...", since<br>
that's not really a question. If a Klingon were really wondering what<br>
some Klingons hope, he'd just ask, {nuq tul 'op tlhIngan?}<br>
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--<br>
De'vID<br>
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