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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Looking and Seeing

Robyn Stewart ([email protected])

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Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Looking and Seeing
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 07:57:56 -0700
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-CA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There&#8217;s also bej, but yes there are some gaps there for glancing at things. In nuq bop bom I found myself saying things like:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>qaStaHvIS lup tlhaq bej.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>mangghom bej ghIq bejbe&#8217;choH.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>nom nuH legh.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>poS mInDu&#8217;Daj &#8216;ach leghbe&#8217;law&#8217;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>- Qov<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Brad Wilson [mailto:[email protected]] <br><b>Sent:</b> April 19, 2014 7:51<br><b>To:</b> [email protected]<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tlhingan-hol] Looking and Seeing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&gt;&gt;&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 2.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>In English, we sometimes emphasize the perfective aspect of<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>perception with semantic games: &quot;You're looking at it, but you don't see<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre><pre><tt><span style='color:black'>it,&quot; or, &quot;You saw it, but you didn't look at it.&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></tt></pre></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&lt;&lt;&lt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>To my mind, &quot;see&quot; is viewing with comprehension, while &quot;look&quot; does not imply any recognition (although it may be present).</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>As far as I know, we only have {legh} and perhaps {tu'}&nbsp;to work with ... {nej} and {Sam} have different meanings entirely.</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>bIlegh 'ach bIyajchu'be'</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>gheyIl</span></tt><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>

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