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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ghay

Brent Kesler ([email protected])

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• Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ghay
• Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 12:25:06 -0400
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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Robyn Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-CA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">If I don’t repeat a subject phrase used for two verbs, I much prefer Hegh ‘ej rIQ SuvwI’pu’ law’. Interesting that it’s ‘ej not qoj or pagh there.</span></p>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>For me the two sentences are interchangeable, they just differ slightly in emphasis. {Hegh SuvwI&#39;pu&#39; &#39;ej rIQ} considers the actions in sequence, while {Hegh &#39;ej rIQ SuvwI&#39;pu&#39;} considers the actions together. I don&#39;t mean that they imply the events happened together or sequentially--just that the speaker, for whatever reason, wants to talk about them together or sequentially.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Consider these examples:</div><div>3. qarDaS HIvpu&#39; &#39;ej charghpu&#39; tlhIngan QI&#39;.</div><div>4. qarDaS HIvpu&#39; tlhIngan QI&#39; &#39;ej charghpu&#39;.</div><div>5. qarDaS HIvpu&#39; tlhIngan QI&#39; &#39;ej qaStaHvIS wej DISmey, charghpu&#39;.</div>
<div><br></div><div>While 3 and 4 could mean the same thing, 5 has a wrinkle that I think justifies a sentence structure like 4.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:46 AM, ghunchu&#39;wI&#39; <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:[email protected]"; target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=""><br></div>It seems to me less like repeating a subject and more like describing a second subject with the same words. If it were the same {SuvwI&#39;pu&#39; law&#39;} in both sentences, I would expect a different conjunction.</blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>This also makes a lot of sense.</div><div><br></div><div>bI&#39;reng </div></div></div></div></div>

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