tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri May 04 12:50:39 2012
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: qo'la' 'awje'
If I had to try to reconcile them, I'd say it's probably a Term for a family of beverages broader than root beer (maybe containing root beer, maybe just approximately describing it), but less broad than "soft drink".
Seems more likely to me, however, that's it's either a case of Okrand forgetting, or somebody (either vavoy or SuSvaj) mishearing/mistemembering. Neither of the options seem super-likely, though, since the accounts are quite detailed (if either vavoy or SuSvaj heard wrong, it seems they didn't just misinterpret a double negative) and the time span was a bit short for Marc to have forgotten such a detailed account (unless the HolQeD article was written long after the actual interview, that is.
That HolQeD was from June '97 (as far ad I can tell), and qep'a' loSDIch was in July 1997, so it's possible SuSvaj had originally read the HolQeD article, and was then surprised to learn that what he'd learnt was wrong.
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From: Steven Boozer [[email protected]]
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No idea. I copied out all the information I have on the two quotes.
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Voragh
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> From: De'vID jonpIn [mailto:[email protected]]
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> Voragh:
> > "I was surprised to learn that we were using {'awje'} incorrectly at
> the qep'a' [loSDIch]. It is not a general term for any non-potent
> drink, but is a specific beverage, that is similar in appearance to
> root beer. In fact, Okrand points out that there is no single all
> purpose word for soft drink." (SuSvaj)
> >
> > "Okrand was quick to point out that this was not a literal
> translation, but rather more of a generic term for a nonpotent
> beverage, one which occurs in Klingon proverbs and was probably what
> Worf meant when remarking that you cannot pry secrets out of someone
> with root beer." (Lawrence M. Schoen on KGT, HQ 6.2: 20)
>
> What's the context for the second quote? It seems to contradict the
> first.
>
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