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[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh cha'maH cha': 'omwI'pu'

De'vID ([email protected])



<br>Qov:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; nuHmeyDaj chaH neH.&quot;<br><br>Maybe use a verb like {Da} or {&#39;oS} instead of {chaH}?<br><br>ghunchu&#39;wI&#39;:<br>&gt;&gt; munuQ &lt;neH&gt; lo&#39;vam.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Whenever I write something like this, I usually end up changing it to<br>
&gt;&gt; put {neH} after the object instead of after the pronoun. On the other<br>&gt;&gt; hand, when I write it that way in the first place, I often end up<br>&gt;&gt; changing it to be the way you wrote it. Do you want to trivialize the<br>
&gt;&gt; idea of &quot;be her weapons&quot;, or do you want to say they are her weapons<br>&gt;&gt; and nothing more? I have the feeling there is an important distinction<br>&gt;&gt; to be made between the two. My inclination today is not to trivialize<br>
&gt;&gt; the &quot;to be&quot;, and I think {neH} should be moved.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Does that make sense?<br><br>{nuHmeyDaj neH chaH}<br><br>Which applies first, the {neH} or the {-Daj}?  Can this be read as &quot;they&#39;re her only weapons (and she has no other weapon)&quot;?  (And if not, how would one express this latter idea?)<br>
<br>I read the above as &quot;they&#39;re only her weapons&quot;, &quot;they&#39;re her weapons and they&#39;re not anything else&quot;, in a literal sense.  Is this literally the case, or does she merely treat them or think of them that way?  I think the English &quot;they&#39;re only her X&quot; is idiomatic for &quot;they&#39;re merely X to her&quot;, but this idiom may not carry into Klingon.<br>
<br>I think {ghaHvaD nuHmey neH chaH} is clearer.<br><br><br>Qov:<br>&gt; yaj. It&#39;s the way it is because I don&#39;t want it read as &quot;They want her weapons.&quot;. To my understanding, neH after a boy trivializes the noun and after a verb, the whole phrase.<br>
<br>Boy?<br><br>--<br>De&#39;vID<br><br><br>-- <br>De&#39;vID<br>
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