tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Jul 08 19:32:22 2012
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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh wa'maH chorgh: che'ron wIvlu'
At 12:41 '?????' 7/8/2012, ghunchu'wI' wrote:
On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Qov <[email protected]> wrote:
> yoH 'avwI' wa'DIch. jatlh, "nuqDaq ghaH vajar HoD'e'? HeSwI' ghonob."
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ghaytan nIv <ghaH_taH_>.
chovnatlhmey vInejmeH GoogleDaq <nuqDaq ghaHtaH> vIghItlhDI'.
chovnatlhmey law' vItu'. nuq bop bom bIH vaghmaH vathvI''e'. Hamlet,
qoqmeylIj lutmey je vItu'. je''eghtaH Ha'DIbaHvam.
> "naDev jIHtaH. HeSmeyqoqwIj tIper," jatlh vajar. vajar SIchmeH
ghom'a' juS 'e' nIDDI' 'avwI' wa'DIch, 'avwI' lu'uchchoH lopwI'pu'
'ej nuHmeyDaj nge'. Haw' latlh.
DaH tagh QuDna'. tugh QeHqu'choH qImyal.
joy'wI' pa' ghoSlI' qImyal, ja'pu' ne'. pa' qama'Daj loStaH'a'?
> mej je mebpu' puS 'ach ratlhtaH HochHom. 'avwI'pu'chaj 'omqangmo'
*veS* yaSpu', vajar lumer 'ach Dujvam ghu' lucherghtaHmo' lumerpu'
je. nIn ngaSwI' rur quvchaj. qoD leghlaHbe' vay' 'ach SachtaH SIp
'ej panDI' vay', pay' jor 'ej qul leghlaH Hoch.
I was about to point out that {nIn} "fuel" doesn't necessarily need
to be flammable. Star Trek uses fusion and matter-antimatter fuels.
But as it turns out, the fuel called out on the Bird of Prey poster
is hydrogen, so never mind.
meQbe' Hoch nIn 'ach QaptaH qech.
> tugh latlh qopwI'pu' lungeHlu' 'e' luSov, 'ej ghaytan law' chaH.
Haw'ta' 'avwI' cha'DIch net botchugh, rap ghu'. bejtaHbej Hung beq.
Dujvam Hung mIwmey Dayajbej.
> pa' HubrupchoHmeH nom vang tlhInganpu'. raSmey tlhe'ta' 'ej raS
HeHmeyDaq raSmey lan. Hung qonwI'mey HotlhwI'mey je Qotlh.
maj. mangghomHomvam ra' 'Iv?
ra'wI' Delbe'pu' vajar. chaq chup vay' 'ej jIj latlhpu'. chaq ra'wI'
ngu'be'pu' vajar Qu'mey ta'choHpa' mangghomHom.
> jorwI'mey lutlh chenmoHmeH HIq balmey lo'. QumwI'mey lo' 'op
yaSpu'. Hol poD, per yuD je lo'.
chu'be'law' QuS. vangrup nuv law'.
> lojmItmey 'avchoH qoj botchoH. patmey naw'meH, lo'laH lojmItmey
poSmoHlI' chamwI'pu'.
'Iq wotmey. <lo' law' lojmIt> DapongHa''a?
bIlugh. mu' {lo' law' lojmIt} vIqawHa'pu'.
> jeS Hota'ro', ghutar je. chIch che'ronvam luwIvbe'pu' 'ach DaH
lucherta'mo' ghol qaDrup.
qaDrup'a' che'ron'e'? pagh ghol luqaDrup'a' chaH?
va. naDev mu'tlhegh vIlaDqa'DI' vIlegh. qatlh vIleghbe' vIngeHpa'?
(And I just wrote mandopa' there. Any guesses where I'm planning a
vacation this fall?)
> 'avwI' lujonpu'bogh yu'choH ghom'a'. yaS patlhmey vuvmo' 'avwI'
mIS, jang 'e' nID, 'ach 'Iqmo jachtaHbogh kyu'wI'pu', moghchoH.
jatlh, "jISovbe' jay'! HIpIchQo'! vIra'lu'DI' jIlob neH. wo' vItoy'!"
wo' toy' 'e' maq, 'a ra'wI' neH toy'. wo' toy'a' ra'wI''e'?
yIloS ... :-)
> jatlh yaS QeH, "bIlob'a' neH? bIQIp'a'. bIQublaHbe''a'?" 'avwI' qab qIp.
(I obviously have more trouble with questions that lack question
marks than you do. It's just not my style. But as long as it's
intentional on your part, I can accept it.)
I don't think they're totally required seeing a -'a' does the trick,
and pIqaD is kinda low on punctuation, but I can't think of any
reason it's not there. I probably just forgot to hit the question
mark there. Fixed.
> Ho'Du' 'ang 'avwI'. noD 'e' nID, 'ach lu'uchtaH ghom'a'.
HoHruplaw' yaS QeH. yu'wI'pu'Daj Saghqu' chov 'avwI'. lopno'chaj
luqaghpu'mo' 'avwI'pu', reH'a' yaSpu'? ghobe'. jatlh 'avwI',
"jIQIpbe'bej, qaH. ta'mey'e' poQbogh wo' vISovlaHbe'. ra'wI'wI'
vIvoqnIS. jaS QaplaHbe' may'Duj tIn."
QI' Sun pablu'be'chugh, Dej QI' 'e' vIHarlaH.
bIghelDI' jang lut nuv 'e' vItIvqu'.
> tlhuHqu' 'avwI' 'ej HughDajDaq nom Sach 'ej SachHa' 'aD 'e' leghlaH vajar,
mu'tay' DaQachchu'. (Toki Pona vIghojchoH vIneH 'e' Datu'chugh, HIweq.)
jIyajbe'.
> 'ach jottaH ghogh 'ej meq lu'agh mu'meyDaj. wo' lutoy'taH negh QaQ.
va. I misused lu- there. negh is grammatically singular. Just goes to
show that there is a part of me that is trying to put lu- on verbs
when a plural subject acts on a singular object.
> jatlh vajar, "wo' toy'be'chugh ra'wI'Daj, nuq 'oH tlhIngan mang Qu''e'?"
>
> "vIqaDnIS," jatlh 'avwI', "'ach wa'Hu' ra'wI'wI' numlu'. not
batlhHa' mu--" yev 'avwI'. jang 'avwI' 'e' luQoymeH jachbe'choHpu' ghom'a'.
<jatlhDI' tlhIngan 'avwI', 'Ijqu' nuvpu'.>
pIj qaSbe' 'ach meqmey Sov luneHlaw'.
> luDechbogh tlhIngan qabDu' Sagh leghqa' 'avwI'. jatlh, "QI'yaH.
ra'wI'wI''e' bopbe', qar'a'?" nachDaj tlhe' mang, qIQlaw'wI'pu'
DevwI' nejtaHvIS. vajarvaD jatlh, "SaQaH. pa' quvDaq jIQam vIneH.
wo'na' vItoy'meH jISuvlaHqu'."
vaj DevtaH vajar. yaS wa'DIch ghaHba' Hota'ro'. HungpIn poQchu'be'
QuD, vaj batlhpIn gheSlaH ghutar.
Would {qIQwI'pu'Hey} be a better choice than {qIQlaw'wI'pu'}? It
does contrast more cleanly with {wo'na'}.
That's an interesting idea. I'll take it.
- Qov
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