Very true. However, I suspect the comment about QemjIqmey being
fillable and qungmey not was a bit of a misdtatement; after all, one
can fill most small qungmey with a bit of lam Dogh.
I suspect the distinction is about one of two things:
1) Topology: Depressions(holes with "dead ends") are QemjIqmey,
true holes are qungmey.
2) The depth of the material: Much like the way 'ab refers to
"longish, skinnyish things", perhaps qungmey refer to punctures in
"membranish, sheetlike things"; things with depths that are small
compared to width and length.
2) strikes me as being the more natural distinction to make,
alrhough I personally prefer 1).
Neither 1) nor 2) satisfies Okrand's non-fillability criterion, however.
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From: Terrence Donnelly [[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 16:34
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] More new words from Maltz
You're probably right in general, but I would point out that you can
easily "fill" the mouth of a bottle by putting a cork or other
stopper in it (I believe we have seen many bottles on Star Trek that
were closed with stoppers).
-- ter'eS
--- On Tue, 1/31/12, Lieven Litaer <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Lieven Litaer <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] More new words from Maltz
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, January 31, 2012, 6:48 AM
ter'eS wrote:
How about QemjIq as the mouth of a bottle? Topologically it's not
much different from the soundhole of a musical instrument with a soundbox.
I think of the mouth of a bottle more like a {qung}, you can put
your finger through it and you cannot fill it. If you fill it, it's
the bottle you fill, not its mouth.
Nevertheless, I'm sure Klingons have their own word for that, or
call it like you did the "mouth" of the bottle. It doesn't sound
correct to say "There's a hole in the bottle." In that case it's broken :-)
By the way, I'm pretty sure you can {vegh} a {qung}, as long as it's
large enough.
Lieven.
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