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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qul tuq.

Felix Malmenbeck ([email protected])



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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">&gt; Interestingly, the last line parallels this bit from another song, the Warrior’s Anthem:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"><font size="2"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">&gt; &nbsp; yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI'</span></b></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"><font size="2"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">&gt; &nbsp; Say'moHchu' may' 'Iw</span></b></font><font size="2">.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"><font size="2"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">&gt; &nbsp; pa' reH maSuvtaHqu'</span></b></font><font size="2">.</font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"><font size="2"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-weight: bold;">&gt; &nbsp; mamevQo'</span></b></font><font size="2"><font size="2">.</font> &nbsp;<b><span style="font-weight:bold">maSuvtaH</span></b>.
 &nbsp;<b><span style="font-weight:bold">ma'ov</span></b>.</font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 12pt; font-family: Arial;"><font size="2">Indeed; those two are even from the same game.<br>
However, I'm quite sure it's not jaqbogh yoHbogh je; to my ear, the &lt;'ej&gt; is the clearest word of the entire song.</font></p>
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<div style="direction: ltr;" id="divRpF941922"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Steven Boozer [[email protected]]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 10, 2012 22:15<br>
<b>To:</b> [email protected]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qul tuq.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica">Interestingly, the last line parallels this bit from another song, the Warrior’s Anthem:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><b><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica; font-weight:bold">&nbsp;</span></font></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><b><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica; font-weight:bold">&nbsp; yoHbogh matlhbogh je SuvwI'</span></font></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><b><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica; font-weight:bold">&nbsp; Say'moHchu' may' 'Iw</span></font></b><font face="Pica"><span style="font-family:Pica">.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><b><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica; font-weight:bold">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;[...]</span></font></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><b><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica; font-weight:bold">&nbsp; pa' reH maSuvtaHqu'</span></font></b><font face="Pica"><span style="font-family:Pica">.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><b><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica; font-weight:bold">&nbsp; mamevQo'</span></font></b><font face="Pica"><span style="font-family:Pica">. &nbsp;<b><span style="font-weight:bold">maSuvtaH</span></b>.
 &nbsp;<b><span style="font-weight:bold">ma'ov</span></b>.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica">&nbsp; The blood of battle washes clean</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica">&nbsp; The Warrior brave and true.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:12.0pt"><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;[...]</span></font></p>
<p class="HTMLBody" style="line-height:12.0pt"><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica">&nbsp; where we battle forever,
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<p class="HTMLBody" style="line-height:12.0pt"><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica">&nbsp;&nbsp;battling on through the Eternal Fight.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Pica" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Pica">If it is by Okrand, could this actually be {reH SuvtaH jaqbogh yoHbogh je ghotpu’}?&nbsp; Just an idea.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Felix
 Malmenbeck [mailto:[email protected]] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 10, 2012 2:38 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:black">The transcript in klingonska.org's canon archive reads:
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<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; color:black">Uuaaooo ma-kool aaaooo ma-sar reshuv tak yak bo ej gogh bow</span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt; color:black">ghotpu'.</span></font></pre>
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It's hard to make out, but I think this is what Marc Okrand might have actually written:<br>
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'o meQ qul!<br>
'o meQ chal!<br>
reH SuvtaH jaqbogh 'ej yoHbogh(?) ghotpu'.<br>
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So:<br>
Oh, the fire burns!<br>
Oh, the sky burns!<br>
The brave and bold people are always fighting.<br>
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