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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] To-Be-Constructions

De'vID jonpIn ([email protected])



<p>loghaD:<br>
&gt; I prefer {X &#39;oH pongwIj&#39;e&#39;}, for much the same reasons as others have explained (my name is the topic of the discussion), but canon seems to lean in the other direction. </p>
<p>There&#39;s one canon example with the template &quot;X&#39;s name is Y&quot;:</p>
<p>{&#39;u&#39; &#39;oH ghe&#39;naQ pong} [sic]<br>
&quot;The name of the opera is &#39;u&#39;.&quot; (i.e., &quot;The opera&#39;s name is &#39;u&#39;.&quot;)</p>
<p>MO seems to have made a mistake in dropping the {-&#39;e&#39;}, but otherwise the grammar is {X &#39;oH pong[Daj]&#39;e&#39;}.</p>
<p>There&#39;s also this from SkyBox card 27:<br>
{roD &#39;oHvaD juHqo&#39; ponglu&#39; neH.}<br>
&quot;[Qo&#39;noS] is usually referred to as simply &quot;The Homeworld.&quot;</p>
<p>loghaD:<br>
&gt; Looking at some examples (from memory, since <a href="http://klingonska.org/canon";>klingonska.org/canon</a> appears to be down):<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sojvetlh &#39;oH nuq&#39;e&#39;? (&quot;What is that food?&quot;)</p>
<p>This was given in PK as the pronunciation in the standard dialect of a Morskan dialect sentence.  I wonder if the grammar is not also odd?</p>
<p>loghaD:<br>
&gt; Dochvam nuq? (&quot;What&#39;s this thing?&quot;)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; yIH nuq? (&quot;What is a tribble?&quot;)</p>
<p>In both of these cases, the question word is acting as a pronoun, and these aren&#39;t {-&#39;e&#39;} constructions.</p>
<p>--<br>
De&#39;vID<br>
</p>
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