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RE: Sentences as objects
- From: Steven Boozer <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: Sentences as objects
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 15:45:57 -0600
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- Thread-topic: Sentences as objects
Tracy Canfield asked:
>2. Verbs of observation
>TKD gives a few example sentences for these:
>
> Qu'vaD lI' net tu'bej
Also:
lI' 'e' Datu'
You will find it useful. PK
>Here are some other verbs I might expect to take sentence objects using
>'e' and net:
Here are examples of {'e'} and {net} used with the verbs on your lists. Realize that just because there are no examples of these pronouns being used with some verbs doesn't mean that they can't be, only that Okrand hasn't yet. In fact, there are many verbs in TKD and KGT that have never been used by Okrand in a sentence.
>hear Qoy
jach SuvwI' 'e' yIQoy
Hear the warrior cry out! TKW
>learn ghoj
>read laD
>realize tlhoj
>verify 'ol
>watch bej
HIvrup 'e' vIbej
I am positive they're ready to attack (slang) KGT
HIvrup 'e' vIbej
I watch that they're ready to attack. KGT
>Do we have any examples of these with sentence objects?
>3. Verbs of mental processes
>
>TKD gives us two examples with Sov, which takes a sentence object with
>'e' or net:
>
>know Sov
> qamapu' DIHoH 'e' luSov
> qamapu' DIHoH net Sov
>
>The following verbs have related meanings - they all deal with mental
>processes. Do we have any information about which ones do or don't work
>the same way?
>
>believe Har
>doubt Hon
tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh 'e' vIHon
I doubt that you speak Klingon." (st.k 7/01/97)
>expect pIH
>forget lIj
>judge, estimate noH
>recognize ghov
>regret pay
>remember qaw
>think Qub
... 'e' DaQub'a'?
"Do you think that...?" (st.k 1/01/97)
tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh 'e' vIQub
I think that you speak Klingon" (st.k 7/01/97)
>understand yaj
>4. Verbs of wanting
>
>TKD shows that neH takes a sentence object without using a complementizer
>such as 'e' or net:
>
>want neH
> jIQong vIneH
>
>Do these verbs work the same way?
No, they don't. {neH} is an explicit exception.
>hope tul
tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh 'e' vItul
I hope that you speak Klingon. (st.k 7/01/97)] -
DujDaj HubtaHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan
To die defending his ship is the hope of every Klingon. TKW
Qu'Daj ta'taHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan
To die in the line of duty is the hope of every Klingon. TKW
wo' toy'taHvIS Hegh 'e' tul Hoch tlhIngan
To die while serving the Empire is the hope of every Klingon. TKW
naDev bIQumqa' 'e' vItul.
(untranslated note on st.k, MO to SuStel 11/96)
>prefer maS
>5. Other verbs which take sentence objects in human languages
>
>Finally, the TKD glossary includes several verbs which would take
>sentence
>objects* in human languages, but which aren't particularly similar to the
>verbs of perceiving, knowing, or desiring for which we see sample
>sentences. Are any of these verbs known to take sentence objects?
>
>advise qeS
>allow, permit chaw'
QaghwIj vIQIj 'e' yIchaw'neS
Permit me to explain my mistake, your Honor. PK
bIH lo' SkyBox International, Inc. 'e' chaw'
SkyBox International, Inc. authorized user. (Copyright)
nIteb Qob qaD jup 'e' chaw'be' SuvwI'
A warrior does not let a friend face danger alone. TKW
lengtaH 'e' yIchaw' Let them continue on their way." (ENT "The Augments")
>attempt, try nID
DuraS tuq tlhIngan yejquv patlh luDub 'e' reH lunIDtaH DuraS be'nI'pu' lurSa' be'etor je.
The sisters of the House of Duras, Lursa and B'Etor, are constantly seeking a higher standing for the House of Duras within the Klingon High Council. S26
>decide wuq
yejquv DevwI' moj ghawran 'e' wuqta' cho' 'oDwI' Dapu'bogh janluq pIqarD HoD
Gowron... named leader of the High Council by Captain Jean-Luc Picard, who was acting as Arbiter of Succession. S25
vImuHlu' net wuqHa'
My death sentence was commuted! (ENT "Affliction")
>demand, require poQ
qab legh 'e' poQ
He/she demands to see a face [challenge to a duel] KGT
loHwI' vISuch 'e' vIpoQ
I demand to see the magistrate! (ENT "Affliction")
>discourage tung
>help, aid QaH
>intend, mean to Hech
Hem tlhIngan Segh 'ej maHemtaH 'e' wIHech
Klingons are a proud race, and we intend to go on being proud. TKW
Ha'DIbaH DaSop 'e' DaHechbe'chugh yIHoHQo'
Do not kill an animal unless you intend to eat it. TKW
>order, command ra'
>plan nab
>prevent, block, prohibit bot
>recommend, suggest chup
>show, reveal 'ang
>vow, swear 'Ip
--
Voragh
Canon Master of the Klingons