tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Mar 31 15:59:20 2006
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Re: KLBC (adverbials)
- From: Shane MiQogh <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC (adverbials)
- Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:59:09 -0800 (PST)
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In conclusion of all this, i do beleive you guys are saying the following:
-No punctuation and adverb affects both verbs.
-With commas, it offects the one it's on the same side of the comma with.
-with (-bogh) it would affect the verb with (-bogh) on it.
Is that essentually the idea?
Terrence Donnelly <[email protected]> wrote:
--- Steven Boozer wrote:
> IOW *{Doqqu'bogh Doch loQ
> vIparHa'} is not possible
> because {loQ} would come between the verb and its
> object.
>
Actually, you could do it: {Doqqu'bogh Doch'e' loQ
vIparHa'}. (by analogy with {HaqwI'e' DaH yIsam}).
> As it happens, {Doq} is a bad example to use as this
> ter'eS's example can
> easily be rewritten:
>
> loQ Doch Doqqu' vIparHa'
> I like the red thing a little bit.
>
> which (to me at least) is quite clear.
This is absolutely true, and is the main reason
why I would apply the adverbial to the {-bogh}'ed
verb in the other case: because a simple way of
saying this is so available, the more "convoluted"
way must be interpreted as saying something
different.
{loQ Doch Doqqu' vIparHa'} can only be "I like the
red thing a little".
{loQ Doqqu'bogh Doch vIparHa'} _could_ be read as
"I like the red thing a little", but why go to
the trouble of this construction if that's all
you intend to say, since the previous construction
does the job nicely? So if I did see this
construction, to me it could only mean that the
writer intends the adverb to affect the first,
{-bogh}'ed verb, and not the main verb.
-- ter'eS
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