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Re: On a more humerous note (some may not think of this as funny)

Elizabeth Lawrence ([email protected]) [KLI Member] 

As a teenager who studies Klingon, I assure you, the funny looks are due to 
the absolute geekiness required to attempt to learn the language, not the 
seriousness with which the attempt is made.  In fact, people who look at you 
funny are not the real issue, they generally let you go your merry way.  It 
is the people who think you are wasting your brain space that cause real 
problems, and they can only be convinced by seriousness and by the mental 
abilities in learning new languages that it gives you.

Elizabeth


>From: Shane MiQogh <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: On a more humerous note (some may not think of this as funny)
>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:52:08 -0800 (PST)
>
>But it is taken way too seriously. Randomly i have been tellin' kids around 
>me that i speak a little klingon and they all look at me weird. Fact is, 
>it's a little *TOO* different, and it's a little *TOO* serious. It's things 
>like the extreeme seriousness that make people think when some says "It's 
>this way not this way, get it right!" that make people think that it's only 
>spoken by people who are obcessed, even to the point of dressing up as a 
>klingon... No offence to those of you out there that do that, but to me it 
>dosn't seem seriousness is the answer. You guys were mearly attracted by 
>the difficulty (it seems) more than my reson which was facination of an 
>easy language that was made by one person. We're too worried about taken 
>the language itself seriously, then workin' on making it look good. It's 
>true that it's a simple language to learn and it's one of the few if not 
>only OVS language out there. It's a great thing to start on before learning 
>other languages. It's like learning
>  C++ then learning javascript. Maybe i just see things in a completely 
>differen't way than you guys do, but it just seems to me we should be more 
>worried about making look like a fun or funny thing to do rather than learn 
>it as a really serious thing. As an example you see in schools that kids 
>who volenteer to take a foreign language do better than those who are 
>forced. Of course, klingon isn't forced, but it's taken seriously like the 
>forced languages are. It's more of a chore for some people (due to how 
>serious we are about keeping it intact) than something fun to learn. And 
>nowadays, it's all about the fun.
>QeS 'utlh <[email protected]> wrote:  The majority of people in the 
>street already do not take the Klingon
>language seriously. One could argue that it's only through our being so
>serious about the language that Klingon has managed to grow as far as it
>has. We treat Klingon like we would any other language. If we weren't so
>serious about it, those who *were* interested in learning it as a language
>would be quickly turned off it. The only way to garner respect for the
>language is to treat it seriously. Any other approach will devalue Klingon
>in the eyes of those who don't speak it.
>
>QeS 'utlh
>tlhIngan Hol yejHaD pabpo' / Grammarian of the Klingon Language Institute
>
>
>not nItoj Hemey ngo' juppu' ngo' je
>(Old roads and old friends will never deceive you)
>- Ubykh Hol vIttlhegh
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