tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jul 21 08:39:53 2006
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Earth languages
Thorwald Peeters asks:
><citaat van="Steve">
> > Besides...*French* Hol vIjatlhba'be'
>
>This makes me wonder, apart from {tera'ngan (Hol)} and {DIvI' Hol}, what
>other {Holmey} are there know about Earth? Have names been agreed upon?
Not really. I've seen these used more than once: *{ghop Hol} "sign
language", *{ghunmeH Hol} "programming language" and *{Paramount Hol}
so-called "Klingon" concocted by Paramount's writers for the TV episodes.
Years ago Rick Endres used *{'InglIch Hol} for English in his excellent
1980's (?) fan-novel "The Daystrom Project": e.g. *{'InglIch Hol
Dajatlh'a'} "Do you speak English?".
Other than that, the practice on the List seems to be to use the name of
the country plus {hol}: e.g. *{FRANCE Hol}, *{GERMANY Hol}. A common
variation is to use the adjectival form of the country: *{FRENCH Hol},
*{GERMAN Hol}. This has always bothered me, since the Klingon pattern uses
the name of the place plus {ngan} - {tera'ngan Hol}, {vulqangan Hol},
{romuluSngan Hol}, etc. - which would produce *{FRANCEngan Hol},
*{GERMANYngan Hol} which I admit sound awkward.
For a source of transliterated Earth names, Qov has been writing a blog in
tlhIngan Hol for some time (cf. her *{bo logh} at
http://bologh.blogspot.com ) and has come up with some Klingon versions of
place names she's been using to discuss current events. Here's a partial
list in Klingon alphabetical order:
*{chay'na'} China
*{Denmar} Denmark
*{Doyche puH} Germany
*{lItuvya'} Lithuania
*{nIponya'} Japan
*{norSIq} Norway
*{nunavut} Nunavut (Qov is Canadian)
*{polpuH} Poland
*{portughal} Portugal
*{puH'eS} Netherlands
*{qanaDa} Canada
*{qo'rI'ya'} Korea
*{qu'ba} Cuba
*{roSI'ya'} Russia
*{SIlavngan} Slav, Slavic (Qov also speaks Russian)
*{SIrebya'} Serbia
*{Su'ome} Finland
*{taypuH} Thailand
*{turqI'ya'} Turkey
*{vIran'eS} France
*{'amerI'qa'} America
*{'aStalya'} Australia
*{'ayran} Iran
*{'ayraq} Iraq
*{'engpuH} England (also used by the KSRP)
*{'eSpang} Spain
*{'InDon'eSya'} Indonesia
*{'Italya'} Italy
(BTW Mark Okrand once coined {wo' tay'} for "United Kingdom".)
Qov has used these Terran language names inter alia:
*{'engpuHngan Hol} English (vs. French, otherwise {DIvI' Hol})
*{'eSper'anto' Hol} Esperanto
*{'enuqtitut Hol} Inuktitut
I've seen {romuluSngan Hol} used for Latin, though I prefer *{roma'ngan
Hol} myself (from *{roma'} "Roma/Rome"). I've also toyed with using
*{'elaSngan Hol} for "Greek" (from the Greek name of their country
*Hellas*) even though {'elaS} "Elas" is a known planet in the Trek
universe: Located in the Tellun star system (telun Hovtay'), Elas had been
at war with the neighboring planet Troyius (Doy'yuS) for many years (TOS
"Elaan of Troyius"; obviously the writers had some fun with Greek legends
here!)
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons