tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Feb 03 15:38:47 2005
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Re: Pronounciation of " Qapla' "
- From: "QeS lagh" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Pronounciation of " Qapla' "
- Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 09:37:55 +1000
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ghItlhpu' Voragh:
>{bI'reS} - beginning (of an opera, play, story, speech, etc.)
I'm not so sure that this can be tendered as evidence, since it's not a name
of any sort and there's no evidence (internally, at least) to say that it's
been borrowed. {vIlInHoD} is similar in that respect.
>{ghI'boj Sech} - Torch of G'boj (PN? GN?)
Interesting that you say that. I've often wondered whether {ghI'boj Sech}
might actually be a metaphor to refer to something other than a torch -
maybe another volcano that has some special significance in Klingon
mythology, since it's said that Qo'noS is more seismically active than
Earth. Unprovable, of course. :)
>{pIqarD} - Picard (PN)
tagha'! Along with {qIrq}, it seems we have some proof that Klingons don't
have so much trouble with clusters as we might like to believe. Even though
it's a foreign borrowing, there's no helping vowel to be seen. That being
said, I am surprised to note the {r}. In the word {'entepray'}, there's no
{r} inserted, and when Picard pronounces his own name, you don't hear an {r}
because he has a British accent.
>So the solution to the "cluster questions" may be that {tlhIngan Hol} per
>se - i.e. the "current" privileged dialect (originally spoken in the First
>City Region?) - has no clusters, but it does permit them in borrowings.
Or perhaps there was another dialect, which was {ta' Hol} at some time in
the past, that *did* have a tendency to drop {I} in some places; maybe the
"old" transcription reflects that dialect rather than the most modern one
(so *{vghro'}, *{braqlul}). Quite a few Terran languages have dialects that
differ in whether they preserve or drop such lax vowels (usually schwa)
between consonants. Just another theory. {{:)
Savan,
QeS lagh
taghwI' pabpo' / Beginners' Grammarian
not nItoj Hemey ngo' juppu' qan je
(Old roads and old friends will never deceive you)
- Ubykh Hol vIttlhegh
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