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RE: DCKL translation problems: knives

Eric Andeen ([email protected]) [KLI Member] [Hol po'wI']

Note the placement of <-Ha'> in the sentence <not Hub'eghrupHa' lo'wI'>.
It should probably be <HubHa''eghrup> - the <-Ha'> suffix, though
technically a rover, is always supposed to go right after the verb stem,
before any other suffixes. 

I've seen several other canon examples with <-Ha'> misplaced (can't
bring any to mind now, though). Interestingly, mistakes Okrand himself
(and presumably Maltz) makes repeatedly (like dropping the <lu-> prefix)
are often later discovered to be common among Klingons in general.
Perhaps we'll see something about flexibility of <-Ha'> placement in
informal Klingon in the future. 

pagh

NOTE: This is just speculation, and should *NOT* be interpreted as an
endorsement putting <-Ha'> anywhere other than right after the verb
stem.


-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Boozer
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: DCKL translation problems: knives

Voragh:
> >{may' taj} - battle knife (a d'ktahg?)

Quvar:
>Isn't a d'ktagh called "warrior's knife"

That's the fancy title to SkyBox card SP2, but the it's called {tlhIngan

may' taj} "Klingon battle knife" in the text:

T.N.G. EPISODES SERIES (1st SEASON): CARD SP2


                      SuvwI' taj
                 Blade of the Warrior

lI'qu' tlhIngan may' taj.  not Hub'eghrupHa' lo'wI'.  taj DopmeyDaq
nargh 
cha' tajHom.  ghop luQan tajHommey.  pe'laH je.  moQDaq DuQwI'Hommey jej

tu'lu'.  pay' HIvDI' lo'wI' pagh mupDI' QIHchu' bIH.

The Klingon battle knife is designed primarily for versatility of use,
so 
that the user is never caught at a disadvantage.  Two small, secondary 
blades eject from the knife's sides, providing both a hand guard and 
another set of cutting edges.  A brutally spiked pommel fastens the hilt

together to provide a damaging surprise attack or give a devastating 
backhand stroke.




-- 
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

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