ja' "Se'noj le'umaS" <[email protected]>: >-er is the subject noun suffix. -ee is the object noun suffix. so bachwI' is >the shooter and bach??? is the person/thing that is shot. That which is shot isn't {bach}-anything. It's {nIch} or {tIH}. I suppose it could be {nuv} if you're talking about a circus cannon... -- ghunchu'wI'