ja' Sangqar: >Can {Qub} be used to express opinion, or just to indicate the thinking >process? TKD introduces the pronouns {'e'} and {net} with a comment about how they are primarily used "...with verbs of thinking or observation..." This statement would implies to me that {X 'e' vIQub} is perfectly reasonable. How you interpret such a phrase is up to you. -- ghunchu'wI' 'utlh