ghuStargh wrote: >But don't get me started with {qaryoq} . . . taD: : Is the pun simply based on "karaoke"? If not, where does it come from? I think {qaryoq'a'} is the actual pun, and {qaryoq} a back-formation. Both "mimic speech" in the same way that karaoke mimics singing. -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons