In a message dated 2002-02-07 1:01:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Of these four words, I pronounce the first three with the same "short o" (Klingon "a"), and 'dog' with an "aw" sound ("open o") (as in 'dawn' or 'daughter'). Also open o in 'long', which I pronounce quite distinctly from German 'lang', which has more the short o sound. Very interesting. SIvten