> By the way, why is {-ghach} unpopular? For one, many beginners see this and think "Oh, cool. If I can't find the noun I'll just throw this on" and then make words like qetghach when they want to say "I went on a run" instead of simply saying jIqet. Do any of the other grammarians have any factual data on the history of -ghach? DloraH, BG