tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Nov 13 17:34:24 1999
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Re: tlhIngan irc chat room
>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:24:36 +0000 (/etc/localtime)
>From: Chris <[email protected]>
>
>Savan,
>
>I'm afraid I have to agree with malqa, I've used IRC ever since I started
>on the internet (Back in 94) and I've tried to set up #tlhIngan on dalnet
>and other irc servers, and even advertised here and no one ever showed up,
>except people who would ask me if I spoke Klingon, and then laughed and
>left. The only person who ever stayed around was _worf_.
Probably because we were still plugging the MUSH; but your point is
well-taken.
>The other problem with large IRC servers is you lose a lot of control over
>what goes on, you can't control the services (DALnet's is nearly always
>down) which mean you lose control over the channel. Also, you generate a
>lot of lag, due to messages going through a lot of different servers
>before getting to you. You also have the problem of netsplits (when a hub
>crashes, disconnecting everything on either side of it).
I hadn't noticed this about DALnet, but my experience with it is admittedly
pretty limited.
>If the problem is spreading the word, then most Klingon speakers goto the
>KLI web page, or are on this list (or other lists). I can easily send out
>a message to the 5 or 6 star trek/klingon lists I'm on telling people
>about the server.
>
>That said, if everyone want to move to a large server, then I'll follow
>along, even though I think it's a bad idea.
>
>qurgh
>
> On Fri, 12 Nov 1999, malqa wrote:
>
>> If this channel goes to larger server then I probably will cease to come .
>> As a beginner I enjoy having a closed (small) server that only folks who
>> are really interested in learning/speaking tlhIngan Hol come to . Most of
>> the time now, I can't follow what is being said .But I have learned alot
>> in one week. I fear that lamers who either only want to make trouble for
>> those in the channel or want to make fun of us trying to learn will show
>> up if this channel goes broader. *Lessons* will probably go out the
>> window. And if the channel op's are not there.. as they aren't all the
>> time, the potenetial for outside problems grows. There are already many
>> klingon type channels on irc. On the fleetchat.org server , a new one,
>> there is Qo'noS . This server ,like klingon.dhs.org is very new and very
>> small and only those really interested know of it ,and there are no
>> outside problems . Perhaps in the future is enough people come to
>> klingon.dhs.org there can be several channels, one for general chat, one
>> for beginners, and one for advanced and one just to chat about klingon
>> culture. I rather like the idea of a klingon based server myself.
Sorry for the big quotes; I wanted to make sure to leave in most of what
folks said.
Well, I must say I have to accept the points made here. I just thought it
might be nice to bring this into the larger world. I still think so, but
not at the cost of excluding people who don't want to deal with the traffic
of scoffers. I'd suggest setting up one on DALnet in *addition* to the
smaller one, but that's doomed to failure. People would pick one or
another to be on, and the community is small enough as it is. Splitting it
would kill at least one (and possibly both) chat room. I dunno, maybe I
can monitor something on DALnet to filter out some interested folks and
point the right ones over? Advertising on our website may be better.
Well, anyway, it was a thought. I accept the objections raised and am
quite content to leave things alone (for now, anyway).
~mark