tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Oct 01 08:28:49 1998
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Re: BG: a question with -moH
While another suggestion has been made for this using {raD},
which works for me, I also think this is one of those context
clarified things. Note that "say it" here is being rephrased to
just mean "speak".
For "You made me speak again":
vIjatlhpu'. chojatlhqa'moH.
For "You again made me speak":
chojatlhmoHpu'. chojatlhqa'moH.
Meanwhile, revisiting {raD}, I think it would be better stated
as:
You made me say it again:
choraDmo' vIjatlhqa'.
You again made me say it:
choraDqa'mo' vIjatlhqa'.
{raD}'s definition suggests to me that the object would be the
entity being compelled, not the action that entity was compelled
to do. If that's correct, {raD} is not really a good second verb
in Sentence As Object.
Meanwhile, I see even another meaning possible:
choraDqa'mo' vIjatlhchoH.
This is something one would say to describe a previously
unexpressed protest against repeated undue pressure.
charghwI' 'utlh
On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:12:16 -0700 (PDT) "Dr. Lawrence M. Schoen"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I was just wondering how to say something like "you made me say it again."
>
> My first attempt was: chojatlhqa'moH
>
> I think that's right, but looking at it made me then wonder how to say
> something like "you again made me say it." My first reaction was to want to
> flip the order of -qa' and -moH but of course you can't do that. Much as I
> want to turn -qa' into a Rover it's not going to happen.
>
> I guess my question is, is my first statement above ambiguous, containing
> *both* meanings? If so, which parsing would you come up with at first
> glance, that you're making me do the action (which I've done before), or
> that you're making me do the action (which you've made me do before)?
>
> Lawrence
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