tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat May 23 14:45:29 1998
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Re: Klingon on Voyager Finale
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Klingon on Voyager Finale
- Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:52:16 -0400
From: Joel Peter Anderson <[email protected]>
>On Thu, 21 May 1998, David Trimboli wrote:
>> You see, what happens is this: the Star Trek writers know people like to
>> hear Klingon, and they know basically what it sounds like, so they just
have
>> the actors choke up something with the syllable "cha" in it and call it
>> Klingon.
>
>Technically, though, as filmed Trek material it is "canonical" Klingon.
>
>Just not "Okrand Canonical".
And making such an exception is entirely useless. I don't call it
"canonical Klingon," I call it "filmed Star Trek" (and "really stupid"). To
point out that "gerble cha cha cha" is "canonical Klingon" because some
actor mumbled something on Star Trek doesn't make it useful at all. If you
really like the word "canonical" go ahead and say it. Don't expect me to
append "Okrand" to it every time I use it. On this list it *is* important
that you make the distinction you did above every single time.
Other television shows, movies, and books have had characters speaking in
fictional tongues before, with no less unintelligibility than Star Trek
actors' gibberish these days. No one bothers to point out it's "canonical"
because no one cares about it. Similarly, I don't see how one can care
about the garbage Star Trek actors spew these days, because it's just as
much gibberish, and memorizing such phrases is not helpful.
Unless *you* have a deeper understanding of the meaning of the phrase, and
can tell us about it?
As I've pointed out elsewhere, "filmed Trek" also establishes that it takes
a few hours to reach the center of the galaxy (Voyager must be a very slow
ship!), that the Enterprise-A had 72 decks, and a whole slew of other stupid
mistakes, not to mention budget increases on a certain species' makeup. To
swear by "yaggle chA mo-REk" and not those seems very hypocritical.
SuStel
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