tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Fri Jun 26 14:46:36 1998
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Re: SuvwI'bom
- From: Marc Ruehlaender <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: SuvwI'bom
- Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:46:29 CDT
- In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 18 Jun 1998 22:56:09 -0700
In message <l03020903b1afa4bd3dda@[206.150.217.239]> Alan Anderson writes:
>
> In Klingon, I am compelled to treat the questions {nuq 'oH ponglIj'e'}
> and {ponglIj 'oH nuq'e'} differently. The first question asks me what
> my name is, in the sense of asking for a description of it. The second
> asks me what my is, in the sense of asking what can be described as my
> name. I rarely dwell on this distinction, but I am always aware of it
> when someone asks a question in the order opposite the way I "want" it.
>
jIyajchu'be'.
<<ponglIj nuq?>> DamaS qar'a'?
<<nuq 'oH targh'e'?>> jItlhobchugh, 'ej <<Ha'DIbaH 'oH.>> vIjanglu'chugh,
SoHvaD lugh'a' mu'tlheghvam?
<<targh nuq?>> jItlhobchugh, 'ej <<targh 'oH targh be'>> vIjanglu'chugh,
SoHvaD lugh'a' je mu'tlheghvam?
vaj SoHvaD lughbogh mu'tlhegh yIwIv:
1: ghom'e' Delbogh wot nungbogh DIp tIn law'
ghom'e' Delbogh DIp nungbogh wot tIn puS.
(SoHvaD lughlaw' mu'tlheghvam.)
2: ghom'e' Delbogh DIp nungbogh wot tIn law'
ghom'e' Delbogh wot nungbogh DIp tIn puS.
...have to switch now...(both lang and topic(sic))
what I don't like about putting nuq and 'Iv in subject position
is that Okrand describes the subject as being the topic "as for"
(TKD p. 68)
thus <<ponglIj 'oH nuq'e'?>> sounds like "As for the what, it is
your name." to me... or "WHAT is your name."
Marc Ruehlaender
aka HomDoq
[email protected]