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Re: Fwd: Re: QoghIj qaD



From: Qermaq <[email protected]>

>The argument here is that perhaps <neH> is a special case. Perhaps it acts
>with the verb. Perhaps it doesn't - I am willing to forget it. But how do
we
>say it? The QAO seemed so concise...
>
>What do you need to eat? nuq DaSopnIS
>
>What are you willing to eat? nuq DaSopqang
>
>What do you want to eat? Now I guess we have to recast. Hmmm... <vay' DaSop
>DaneHchugh vaj HIja'!> Still doesn't make the answer the thing the
addressee
>wants to eat... grrrrrrrrr...

So, because an unrelated grammatical formulation doesn't work the same way,
this is a problem?  Theories on the pseudo-suffix nature of {neH} are all
very nice, but you can't use them to support arguments about actual usage!

>>I honestly believe you are mistranslating gibberish into a
>>sensible English sentence because that which you wish to say is
>>simple to say in English, even though it violates Klingon
>>grammer to do so.

I believe this is what is happening, as well.

>I also challenged listers
>to come up with alternatives. I have seen none. Surely there is some way to
>ask another Klingon what they want to eat?

I've heard a couple.  There are many alternatives.

"What do you want to eat?"

Soj DaneHbogh yIngu'.
Soj DaneHbogh yIDel.
Soj DaneHbogh yIpong.
Soj DaneHbogh yIwIv.
Soj DaneHbogh yIwuq.
DaH Soj yIwIv!  tugh!  bIje'be'chugh vaj bIHegh!  ARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!

Different grammar requires different ways to say things.  It just so happens
that this question in English must be a command in Klingon.

SuStel
Stardate 98540.7





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