tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Jan 24 22:23:51 1998
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Re: Nature phenomenon
- From: Qov <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Nature phenomenon
- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:23:00 -0800
At 09:58 98-01-22 -0800, SuSnuv wrote:
}-----Original Message-----
}From: Qov <[email protected]>
}To: Multiple recipients of list <[email protected]>
}Date: Tuesday, January 20, 1998 6:51 PM
}Subject: Re: Nature phenomenon
}
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}>The long answer is the thread of arguments and conflicting advice that this
}>post will engender.
}
}If you insist. I find it hard to believe (though not impossible) that
}Klingon would have verbs which *cannot* have any logical subject. Qov's
}suggestion that {SIS} and {peD} and so forth use the indefinite subject
}suffix {-lu'} advocates this idea.
There are English verbs that are only used in really limited ways. I don't
have a problem with there being similar Klingon verbs. I don't object to
seeing {SIS} and {peD} used alone or to {peD muD} or {peD chal} or {SIS
bIQ}. I stated the construction that I currently prefer. I changed to it
from preferring the simple {SIS} and I may change again in the future.
}I think we just have to find out what the proper subject for these verbs is.
}Perhaps it is {muD} "atmosphere." Since we do know that {muD Dotlh}
}"atmosphere's status" is the correct phrase to use when asking about the
}weather (see HolQeD 2:4), it would be logical to say exactly what the
}atmosphere is doing in response to this question.
We have many things to find out about Klingon, and until we find them out I
will acept everything that seems reasonable and use and advise to use the
ones I like best, mentioning the controversy as I do so.
}tlhIngan wa': HurDaq muD Dotlh nuq?
}("What's the weather like outside?")
}
}tlhIngan cha': SIStaH. (or, {SIStaH muD})
}("It's raining.")
Qov [email protected]
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