tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Wed Nov 26 12:05:02 1997
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Re: bIQ'a' Doq bIngDaq
>Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 01:20:46 -0800 (PST)
>From: "Anthony.Appleyard" <[email protected]>
>
> HuD law' 'oH Sinai-'e'. tI luHutlh. Mars yuQ lurur. bIH qoDDaq 'oH Gebel
>Katherina-'e' (= Catherine HuD) 'ej Bible Sinai HuD 'oH 'e' jatlhlu' 'ej
>DaqvetlhDaq 'oH St.Catherine monastery ngo'qu''e'. chalDaq qubpu' 'engmey'e'
Is it actually INSIDE the mountains? Dug deep into the rock? You got the
{qoD} you (and others) have wanted for a while, don't go using it for other
things now! It means "inside, interior." Not "among."
> 'e'Daq = "at that (place)" = "there", vIjatlh 'e' jIneHpu'. ('oHDaq?)
"pa'". You know that "'e'" doesn't mean "that" in the sense of a thing,
only in the sense of referring to the previous sentence as the object of
the current sentence. See section 6.2.5. "Klingon has two special
pronouns... which refer to the previous sentence as a whole.... They are
always treated as the object of the verb." To say "there" use "pa'", per
section 3.3.5. I suppose one could conceivably say "DaqvetlhDaq", though
that sounds pretty long-winded.
>> > ('e'Daq MarchDaq bIQbIngSut vItuQnIS, 'a langlaH.)
>> ... langlaH'a' Sutvam? ...
> jeD bIQbIngSutwIj, 'a 'oHDaq yap Sut lang.
"jeD" is of liquids.
>> > 'e'Daq norgh vIleghbe'.
>> ... not norgh vIlegh jIH 'e' vItul! tera'Daq norgh tu'lu'be'ba'.
> tera' norgh 'oHbogh shark'e' vIDelpu' 'e' vIHechpu'
vIlaj 'ej vIyaj jIH...
>> > wa' loDvaD 'e' vIja'DI', jatlh: "mu(be_jealous)moHmo' 'oH ja'chuqbe'
> wa' loDvaD lutvetlh vIja'DI', "mu(be_jealous)moHmo' 'oH yIja'chuqbe'".
"yI-" Dalo'DI', "-be'" yIlo'Qo'. lugh "-Qo'"'e'.
chaq "mu(be_jealous)moHbe'meH wIja'be'"? qayajbe' 'e' vIHar.
> wa' ram 'oHDaq chalDaq maS Dechbogh gho tIn wov'e' leghlu'pu' 'ej novmey
>loghDuj rur 'oH 'e' jatlhpu' wa' loD, 'ach neH muD QeD "halo" 'oHpu'.
"'oHDaq"..? nuqDaq? "antecedent" vItu'be'.
"tInbogh gho wov" "wovbogh gho tIn" ghap ja'nISlu', qar'a'? De'vetlh
wIghojpu''a'? chaq jIqawHa'.
"jatlh" lo'lu'DI', "'e'" lo'lu'be', qar'a'?
DIpDaj tlha'nIS "neH": "muD QeDHey (halo) neH 'oHpu'"
"-pu'" Dalo'chu''a'? "past tense" lo'law' lut, 'a "perfect aspect" 'oS
"-pu'".
> Thistlegorm DujDI tInqu' noy DIleghpu'.
DIp lutlha' cha' wot... mub'a'? "noybogh DujDI tInqu'" ja'nISlu' 'e'
vIqawlaw'.
>1939-1945 Harghlu'taHvIS lupuypu'
>jorwI'mey chaghbogh Germany chalDujmey'e'.
Hmm... Daj... :) qay'be' mu'tlhegh, 'a "-'e'" Dateqchugh, vaj vIparHa'chu'.
Dajqu'choH. qatlh? Saja'. Duj puy nuq? lupuy'a' jorwI'? lupuy'a'
chalDujmey? pIm'a' ghu'? ghobe', ram. vaj DIp potlh ("head noun")
wIpoQbe' (pagh DIp potlh wIngu'nISqu'be'). "relative clause"Daq not "-'e'"
lannISqu'lu', 'a naDev, 'oH noplu'chugh, Qapchu' mu'tlhegh.
> DaqvetlhDaq (dive)pu' Cousteau HoD.
>'oH qoDDaq chalDujmey 'ay'mey QuQcha'ghomey [= motorcycles] Dochmey law' je.
wot vIleghbe'law'.
>bIQ Say'qu'Daq 'oH Hochvam'e'. bIQDepmey'e' vItoghlaHbe'bogh 'oH beqDaj'e'.
^^^
"bIH", qar'a'?
~mark