tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Apr 21 21:06:38 1997
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RE: KLBC: first log
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: RE: KLBC: first log
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 97 00:49:44 UT
[email protected] on behalf of fonseca wrote:
> tlhingan Hol QonoS vIghItlh wa'Dich nID jIH tu'lu'.
Remember to include the English equivalent of what you're trying to say. I'm
not sure I understand this.
Perhaps you mean this is your first attempt at writing a log. {wa'DIch} and
any other ordinal numbers come after the NOUN they modify. They do not modify
verbs.
tlhIngan Hol QonoS wa'DIch vIghItlh 'e' vInID.
Remember to use {'e'} or {net} with a sentence-as-object, and the appropriate
verb prefix.
> Qaghmey law' Sutu'bej, 'ach jInIDnIS.
Yes, we do. {Su-} is a suffix indicating no object. But there is an object!
{Qaghmey law'}.
Qaghmey law' botu'bej, 'ach jInIDnIS.
> wa'Hu' tlhingan Hol vImughqa'.
Yesterday you resumed translating Klingon?
> mu'mey loQ vIlo' jIH QatlhmeH, qejghach cha'
> qoj wej
> ghajmo'.
Oh, dear.I don't follow this. If you want the adverbial to come *after* the
object, you must add {-'e'} to the object.
What's difficult? {QatlhmeH} "in order that it is difficult." This wasn't
intended as an infinitive, was it? Remember, Klingon does not have
infinitives, and {-meH} clauses must come at the beginning of a sentence.
{qejghach} is a marked word. Okrand has told us that using {-ghach} without
an intervening suffix is marked usage, and not used in normal conversation.
You cannot say "two or three" like this. If anything, these will act as
nouns, but you're using the verb conjunction! Klingons prefer accuracy!
Choose one!
> DIvI'Hol vItu'be' mu'mey: nuq <boot spike qoj ponytail> ?
Yikes! What is your subject, and what is your object?
DIvI' Hol mu'meyvam vItu'laHbe': "boot spike" "ponytail" je.
A boot spike is the pointy thing at the toe of a Klingon's boot.
A ponytail is hair gathered into a length and tied.
> Dahjaj yap tu'lu'.
Get your capitalization right! {yap} is a verb, not a noun, so you cannot
find {yap}. You might just say {pItlh}.
> Salegh
There may be controversy as to whether or not Klingons greet each other and
say goodbye the way Terrans do, but they certainly wouldn't translate over
"I'll see you." Either end the message, or say something which we know is
acceptable, like {Qapla'} (well, actually, there's problems with this, too . .
.).
--
SuStel
Beginners' Grammarian
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