tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Apr 19 08:16:30 1997
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Re: KLBC: Some Sayings
- From: "William H. Martin" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: KLBC: Some Sayings
- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:16:06 -0400 ()
- Priority: NORMAL
nIb loD jIHpu'bogh loD jIHtaHbogh je.
charghwI', recasting, once again.
On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:10:42 -0700 (PDT) "Mark E. Shoulson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
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> >Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 18:58:34 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
> >
> >On Saturday, April 12, 1997 11:54 PM, [email protected] on behalf of Jim
> >LeMaster wrote:
> >
> >> I am trying my hand at my first tlhIngan Hol translations.
> >> I selected a few sayings that I use quite often.
> >>
> >> In war, there are dirty fighters and losers.
> >> noH HIghwI'pu' je lujwI'pu' pa'.
> >
> >To say "in war," you cannot just say "war." You also cannot use {-Daq} here I
> >think, since fighting a war is not a physical location. What you *can* do is
> >rephrase this to something Klingon can handle. Something like {ghoblu'taHvIS}
> >"while one makes war." You could also use the verb {Qoj} instead of {ghob}.
> >({ghob} is a noun "ethics" and a verb "make war" from TKW.)
>
> FWIW, I'm not sure "noHDaq" is bad for this sense of "in." War is a pretty
> believably spatial thing. It's not stretching it all that far.
>
> >> (Popeye's philosophy) Iam what I am.
> >> nuq jIratlh jIratlh. (I remain what I remain.)
> >
> >Ack! I don't think Klingons would have much use for tautologies (did I spell
> >that right?).
>
> Moreover, using "nuq" as a relative pronoun doesn't work (in this
> situation, even people who permit nuq for certain relatives would agree
> that this isn't one of them).
>
> I'd do something like "jIDa'egh", but that's not quite the same.
>
> ~mark
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