tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sat Nov 16 15:52:30 1996
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q and Q (was: help with this.)
- From: "David Trimboli" <[email protected]>
- Subject: q and Q (was: help with this.)
- Date: Sat, 16 Nov 96 19:32:01 UT
jatlh qrlIH:
> and that {Q} was the
> same sound as {q} "but with an attitude" [his words]. This would seem to
> be at variance with your description of "two" vs. "chew". Perhaps this
> might be taken as further evidence that many {tlhInganpu'} speak with
> different accents?
Okrand usually describes things for non-linguists. The similarity between {q}
and {Q}, and "t" and "ch" is that the first of each pair is a stop and the
second is an affricate, and each takes place together in one part of the mouth
(although each *pair* is produced in different parts of the mouth).
ghunchu'wI' was making this analogy, I believe, and Okrand was describing the
best way to get a non-linguist to understand how to make the {Q} sound. Take
a look at HolQeD 1:1 for a good phonetic article about the sounds of Klingon.
If Okrand had said "Klingon {q} is a dorso-uvular unvoiced stop, and Klingon
{Q} is a dorso-uvular unvoiced affricate," he would have been exact in his
terminology, but nobody would have understood him.
SuStel
Beginners' Grammarian
Stardate 96878.3