tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Thu Nov 14 15:01:23 1996
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Re: Using -Daq (was RE: KLBC: Translation)
- From: "Adrian (HurghwI')" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Using -Daq (was RE: KLBC: Translation)
- Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 17:02:02 -0600
At 09:40 PM 11/13/96 -0800, you wrote:
>>jatlh HurghwI':
>>> Correct as usual . . . I realized this right after I sent the message, and
>>> had already changed my sig. However, don't words for location like {pa'},
>>> {naDev}, {vogh}, and {Daq} have an assumed {-Daq} suffix? If not, could I
>>> say {DaqDaq}?
>>
>>Only the three words {pa'} (only in the sense of "thereabouts"), {naDev}, and
>>{Dat} have the location built-in and therefore cannot use {-Daq}. So, yes,
>>{DaqDaq} is a legitimate word.
>>
>>SuStel
>
>"Cannot" is too strong. "Need not" would be more apt.
No, you really CANNOT. I'm sure it says so in TKD, in the nouns section
somewhere.
>In a bar, the visiting Terran hears a commotion and asks his Klingon escort:
> pa'Daq qaStaH nuq
> What's happening over there? (CK)
>And, in a related usage, you can use -vo' with naDev:
> naDevvo' yIghoS
> Go away! (TKD)
> naDevvo' jIleghlaHchu'be'
> I can't see well from here. (CK)
> naDevvo' vaS'a'Daq majaHlaH'a'
> Can we get to the Great Hall from here? (PK)
>If naDevvo' is permitted, then naDevDaq is, at least, a possibility
>(though it is surely redundant). The only examples of naDev used in an
>accusative sense I can find from Okrand are:
> naDev ghoS
> Come here! (PK)
> naDev Dochvetlh qem
> Bring that here! (PK)
> naDev Dochvetlh qemqu'
> I really mean it this time: bring that here! (PK)
>Note that these are all Clipped Klingon as they are pet commands. Also,
>naDev ghoS ("Come here") has been used in TNG "Redemption I" but, as we
>know all too well, Paramount's use of Hol proves nothing - even when they
>manage to get it right.
I'm afraid I your point from all this.
-Adrian K (aka HurghwI')
Stardate 96870.5
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