At the moment I'm practicing my sentances. Is the following a legal sentence? bang joghbatlh 'ej Heghbatlhba' A loved one stooped with honor and obviously died with honor. I'm not sure, I know it's nonsence, but if children learn that way, I do. It could mean; "a not bold, brave Klingon has still got honor, but that's all he dies with." Qapla' Daniel