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Re: KLBC - help on a few phrases

At 06:59 PM 8/26/96 -0700, Chet Braun wrote:
>Putting together a manuscript and I'd like a check on a few phrases.
>(Actually I've got more than a few but I figured I shouldn't inundate the list
>with them.)


So send 'em in bits and pieces. {{:)


>The Hung Family and Pacific Warriors, Inc. continually improve the martial
spirit.
>TonSaw' qa' DubtaH Hung qorDu''a' [Pacific Warriors, Inc.] je


First of all, the "t" in <tonSaw'> is not capitalized.  I would also put
"Hung" in quotes or []'s or something as well, to indicate that it is the
name of the House, and not the Klingon noun <Hung>, meaning "security".

Not being very familiar with the Martial Arts and what exactly is meant by
"marial spirit", I can't comment if <tonSaw' qa'> is a good translation for
this phrase or not.  Otherwise, your sentence is grammatically correct.


>Talk is easy, achievement is difficult.
>nap QIch 'ach Qatlh chav


We do have a verb "to be easy", <ngeD>.  I like how you re-cast "talk" to
"speech".  majQa'!


>Practice 10,000 times.
>netlhlogh yIqeq


or <peqeq>, if you are adressing more than one person.


>free fall martial arts
>pagh tlham tonSaw'


I'm sorry... I don't even know what "free fall martial arts" are, so I can't
even begin to comment on this.  The only thing I can do is tell you that the
literal translation of this phrase is:

        "Klingon fighting system of zero/none gravity"


>Only in space can you fall off the floor.
>ravvo' bIpum'eghlaHmeH loghDaq SoHnIStaH


I'm not sure I like this at all.


I'm not entirely sure I know what this expression is supposed to mean.  It
almost sounds idomatic, but I would have to hear it in context.  Unless
someone more knowledgable than I wants to comment on this, I will just
address the grammar issues.


How does one "fall yourself"?  That doesn't make sense.  It might make more
sense if you drop the -'egh, and just say "in order that you are able to
fall from the floor".  That would convey your meaning a bit better.  Also, I
REALLY hate seeing a pronoun with verb suffixes attached to mean "to be"
without a noun with -'e' after it!  Why not use the verb "to be present", <SaH>?

        ravvo' bIpumlaHmeH, loghDaq bISaHnIStaH

I would like it even better if you could do this with a -taHvIS
construction, but I don't think you can use <neH> that way...

        ?loghDaq bISaHtaHvIS, ravvo' bIpumlaH neH?

In fact, I'm pretty sure you can't... any of the re-cast experts have a
better way to put this?




>Thanks in advance,


qay'be'


>HetaQ



--tQ


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