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Re: TLHINGAN-HOL digest 262



> According to Matt Treyvaud:
> .. 
> > > 
> > > TKD page 172: "I wasn't there." {pa' jIHpu'be'}
> > > 
> .. 
> > ..
> 
> The first thing to know is that {-be'} can be applied to any
> suffix except Type 9. Given that, my spin would be:
> 
> pa' jIH = I am there.
> 
> pa' jIHbe' = I am not there.
> 
> pa' jIHbe'pu' = I have been not there. In other words, I have
> not spent my entire life in that spot. The act is complete that
> I have been some other place than there.
> 
> pa' jIHpu' = I have been there.
> 
> pa' jIHpu'be' = I have not been there. The act is not complete
> that I have been there. If I say that to you and I am obviously
> not there at the time, then obviously I have never been there.

jIyaj. But then what if you have been there before but were not there at 
the time in question? - e.g. a murder in your kitchen (which you didn't 
commit). A better way to express all the meanings, I think, would be 
{poHvetlh qaStaHvIS, pa' jIHbe'}... this seems much less ambiguous. {pa' 
jIHpu'be'} and {pa' jIHbe'pu'} both seem flawed to me.

 Incidentally, do we know now how to handle {je}-ing more than two nouns? 
If so... how is it done? (my money's still on listing them and putting 
{je} at the end).
 
> 
> charghwI'
>  

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