tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Mar 21 08:23:06 1995

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Re: qeylIs ghaH "Iv



>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 10:40:46 -0500
>Originator: [email protected]
>From: [email protected] (Joshua Rosenblum, Supergenius)

I'm not really qualified (or interested) to talk much about this
information, but I do have a few things that puzzled me.  I'm also curious
where this information came from.  Is this official Paramount canon?

>From:  Lt. Kinarra vestai-Suabaiesh
>      1st Political Operations Specialist
>       ICB/KDC
>      Imperial Klingon Navy


>The first mention of Kahless is in an original episode of STAR TREK where he 
>is introduced as qeylIS-lijbe'taH ghaH, Kahless.  The Unforgetable.  (Kahless. 
> He is not forgotten.)  He was described as the person who united the
>klingons 

No, "lIjbe'taH ghaH" means "He is not forgetting."  Sort of like a divine
records-keeper?  If this phrase is canon, we have to do some serious
re-thinking.

>codified by John Ford in his book "The Final Reflection" and FASA's "Klingons" 
>supplements for their Star Trek role playing game.  (Both publications are 
>*excellent* resources for klingon culture).  

Oh, OK.  Ford's work, last I heard, was not considered by Paramount to be
canonical.

>Kahless united the klingon people under one rule and turned their power 
>outward into space.  He was the living proof that klingons were to rule 
>others, that the empire was komerex (that which grows).

Note that Komerex is a word in Ford's Klingonaase, a language which has
nothing to do with tlhIngan Hol aside from its being attributed to the same
race.  Wish we knew more about it, though.

>>From this comes the klingon expression qeylISte' qaS (Kahlesste Kaase, 
>"te'"-ancient possessive?  "Kaase"-archaic noun?) Kahless' Hand!

Weird, transliterating Klingonaase into tlhIngan letters!

~mark


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