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Re: (n) orbit?

~markoyvo':
> 
> >Someone wrote:-
> >> If we stretch just a little, we might try to use {bav} as an adjective.
> >> {bav} = (v) orbit, be an orbit ** proposed extension to definition
> >> Then {He bav} would do just fine without needing an entirely new word.
> 
> >Mark Shoulson replied:-
> >> "to orbit" and "to be an orbit" are vastly different concepts. I see that
> >> you're trying to get something like "bavbogh He".  ...
> 
> >{Doy' puq} = "the child is tired",  {puq Doy'} = "tired child". Thus,
> >{bav Duj}  = "the ship is in orbit", {Duj bav} = "ship which is in orbit".
> 
> >This reversing of word order between these 2 constructions, plus a fair amount
> >of individual verbs that <can> be used as nouns, seems to allow complimentary
> >ambiguous pairs like:-
> >{qum qeS} = V N "the advice governs"
> >       N V "a government which is advising [someone]"
> >{qeS qum} = V N "an advice which governs"
> >       N V "the government is advising [someone]"
> 
> This very construction was discussed quite a while ago on this list, when I
> took the position that, in general, "N V" was equivalent to "Vbogh N", as
> you seem to be here.  This I based on the adjectival verb construction
> you're mentioning.  So I said that "qetbogh loD" could be "loD qet," etc.
> 
> However, Krankor disagreed.  He pointed to the line in TKD which describes
> the way these adjectival verbs work, on p.49:
> 
>   A verb *expressing a state or quality* can be used immediately following
>   a noun to modify that noun.  [emphasis added]


Ah.... that is the quote/discussion I was thinking of, and had 
forgotten.  qatlho'qu'neS, loDnI''oy!


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