tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jan 23 11:20:59 1995
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Re: easy sentences
> >However I still don't see your point about -Ha' not denoting
> >a change from positive to negative. Of all the meanings
> >Okrand gives us to approximately translate -Ha', which are
> >"undo", "mis-", "de-", "dis-" and "wrongly", three denote
> >a change ("undo", "de-" and "dis-"), while the other two
> >denote a wrong way of acting.
> >None of them seems to indicate a qualitative difference
> >between -be' and -Ha', the way you write above.
>
> Jetzt reicht's aber. Bitte, man soll sich nicht so lange streiten. Die
> Loesung ist einfach. Ich schlage Ihnen vor, dass Sie Sich nur die Beispiele,
> damit Okrand die Bedeutungen von Woerter gezeigt hat.
>
Ich wollte nicht streiten, sondern verstehen. Tut
mir leid, da"s das mi"sverstanden wurde.
(I didn't want to quarrel, but to understand.
Sorry, if it was misunderstood.)
> The same goes for {chu'Ha'}. There is no change of action. All you do is the
> opposite of {chu'}.
>
> That is one use of {-Ha'}. You can also use it to mean the semantic opposite,
> as in {Do'Ha'}. There is no change of state. {Do'Ha'} just means the state is
> contrasting to {Do'}. {Do'be'} is just neither {Do'} nor {Do'Ha'}, but just
> neutral, between the two extremes. Similarly, {mIp} means "rich", while
> {mIpbe'} means "not rich (but not poor either)" while {mIpHa'} means "poor".
> Do you see how that works?
>
> So, the main meaning of {-Ha'} is opposite.
>
Now I think I understand! And this really
wasn't clear to me from what Okrand writes
and despite charghwI''s honest efforts to
explain it to me, sorry!
> So, {-Ha'} is just "opposite" or "wrongly". I hope that clears things up. If
> you're unclear on anything else, just ask here and someone would be glad to
> explain it in a way that clearer than Okrand.
>
> Guido
>
qatlho'qu'
Marc 'Doychlangan'
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