tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Mon Jan 23 01:38:25 1995
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Use of some words: analogical and other extensions of usage
- From: "A.Appleyard" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Use of some words: analogical and other extensions of usage
- Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 09:33:08 GMT
- Priority: normal
I recently used {bav} = "(v) orbit" as a noun as an analogical extension, and
this caused comment; what is the opinion on these other extensions of usage
which people may make?
(a) Does {yoD} = "(v,n) shield" mean ONLY "protective force field" like round
a spaceship? Or can it also be used for a knight-in-armour or riot-police
or native tribal warrior etc type shield made of matter?
(b) Does {Duj} = "(n) ship,vessel" mean only spacecraft? or can it be used for
water craft as in English? (Someone recently said that some people used {Duj}
to mean their cars!)
(c) TKD says that {ghItlh} = "(v) write, (n) manuscript". Does {ghItlh} (noun)
thus mean ONLY "the first or master copy of a book or article"? Or is the
common understandable extension of its meaning to mean "letter on paper" (to
distinguish from {jabbI'ID} = "email message") theoretically OK?
(d) Does {logh} mean only "outer (= interstellar or interplanetary) space"? Or
can it also mean gaps between words or objects etc as in English? (Compare
Greek usage: (double vowel = long) {diasteema} = "space between words or
objects etc", and in MODERN Greek also "outer space"; but in Ancient Greek
"outer space, the Void" was instead called {kha(w)os} from the verb root
{kha}, {khn} = "gape, be wide open" (Note: modern "chaos" = "disorder" came
from uninformed wrong guesses by theorizing mediaeval theologians.).)
TKD says that {'ejyo'} = "Starfleet", {'ejyo'waw'} = "starbase". Do these mean
only those of the Federation (as the word `Starfleet' is used in Star Trek)?
Or can they mean the Klingons', or any space power's, space fleet and bases?
Why in modern space science fiction films are spacesuits hardly ever seen? The
expression "Buck Rogers look" is proverbial for spacesuit-like protective
suits, but in the modern Buck Rogers films I have never seen a spacesuit. In
all the space-ism of Star Trek and TKD etc I have heard of (but not seen) only
one sight of a Starfleet spacesuit, and TKD has no word for "spacesuit" or
"suit". Do I use {loghHIp} ("space uniform")? Or what? TKD has {mIv} =
"helmet": does (whatever use in a Star Trek story caused Okrand to provide the
word) refer to a space helmet (*{loghmIv})?, or to an in-atmosphere protective
helmet? (Russian {skafandr} means "spacesuit" and also "diving suit".)
`Worf': someone's suggested amendment *{worv} is also not standard tlhIngan
Hol. (Note: the cases "cough" and "laugh" of modern English `gh' pronounced
`f' derive from not {gh} or {H} but {HH}: Anglo-Saxon {cohh-}, {hlaehh-}.)