tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun Jan 08 10:30:04 1995
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Re: nuqneH
- From: "Mark E. Shoulson" <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: nuqneH
- Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 13:30:01 -0500
- In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> ("ADM::RSORENSEN"@tiny.computing.csbsju.edu)
>Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 09:42:30 -0500
>Originator: [email protected]
>From: "ADM::RSORENSEN"@tiny.computing.csbsju.edu
>William H. Martin
>> > SoneSHa'wI' jatlh
>>
>> nuqjatlh? //SoneSHa'wI'// vIyajbe'.
>I was trying for "A lurker speaks" with this - lurker being 'one who
>hides dishonorably'. It's a stretch.
Pretty much. And hard to understand. And not quite grammatical, for that
matter.
A few neat points that may not be obvious:
First, -neS. It's a strange suffix, the only type-8, never required. But
it doesn't act the way you intend. From the evidence we have, "-neS"
indicates respect towards the person(s) *to whom it is addressed*,
regardless of the subject or object of the verb. The evidence isn't 100%
necessarily, but I think it's pretty convincing. Canon sentences:
DojneS mIplIj (your wealth is impressive, your honor)
po'neS baHwI'lI' (your gunners are skillful, y.h. [erg, I don't recall this
sentence perfectly])
cha'pujqut vIngevmeH chaw' HInobneS (give me a permit to sell dilithium
crystals, y.h.)
I wouldn't be surprised if you could say "puqchaj SopneS jaghmaj" (Our
!!#%^* enemies eat their children, your honor -- note derogatory -maj
possessive).
Next, the -Ha'. For all that -Ha' is a rover, it doesn't rove. It always
comes right after the verb. So you can't use it to modify -neS by
following it. And near as I can tell, if you can modify -neS, the best
you could do would be to make sure that your audience knew it was being
insulted... (or extremely honored, with -qu').
~mark
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