tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Sun May 29 08:12:28 1994
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Re: Nick's comments on HolQeD
- From: HoD trI'Qal <[email protected]>
- Subject: Re: Nick's comments on HolQeD
- Date: Sun, 29 May 1994 20:06:03 -0400 (EDT)
>Guidovo':
>...
>> If ever you have a nominalized verb used as your object, look carefully. In
>> most cases like that, you can (and should) recast with the {'e'} pronoun.
>
>charghwI'vo':
>
> I've recently wondered if this sort of device could be used in a
>comparative construction in a way similar to Krankor's use of {-ghach} a
>while back in HolQeD. My point is less to discredit Krankor than to wonder if
>this alternative could be considered valid:
>
> jIjaH 'e' qaq law' jIratlh 'e' qaq puS
>
> "It is more preferable that I go than that I stay."
>
> Does this work for people? I like it because it avoids any controversy
>over the use of {-ghach} with any verb stem or artificially suffixed verb,
>AND it avoids any controversy over whether a verb with prefixes or even
>explicit subjects and objects can be nominalized. It does make for a somewhat
>long winded construction in many cases, but that's the nature of law'/puS.
>
> This construction also lacks any ambiguity and significantly expands the
>use of the comparative construction.
>
>charghwI'
Oh, GADS!
charghwI', usually, when you post something, it seems to be pretty clear how
you are thinking, and where you are coming from... but I have to confess, I
have *NO* idea where you came up with this. There is absolutely *NO*
indication *anywhere* that we can do something like this.
Much to my personal regret, I have been forced to agree (for now, until
examples come up showing otherwise) that the *only* construct which can go in
the A and B slots are nouns or noun phrases. This is NOT a noun... it is a
whole sentence.
And personally, if it ever *did* change that we could put something other than
a noun there, I would much rather see a construct like this:
jIjaH qaq law' jIratlh qaq puS
... where a whole sentence can be put in each slot. However, at this time, I
agree that this cannot be done.
In short, no, it *doesn't* work for me...
--HoD trI'Qal
tlhwD lIy So'