tlhIngan-Hol Archive: Tue Mar 15 02:55:51 1994
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KLBC: Spring Break
- From: [email protected] (Mark E. Shoulson)
- Subject: KLBC: Spring Break
- Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:53:50 -0500
- In-Reply-To: "trI'Qal"'s message of Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:13:04 -0400 (EDT) <[email protected]>
>From: "trI'Qal" <[email protected]>
>Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:13:04 -0400 (EDT)
>*Beginner*
>...Paulvo':
>>DaH poH'a' vIghajmo' jIghIQlaH 'ach jIneHqu'nISmo' jIghIQQo'
>>qaD 'oHpu' mughta'ghach'e'
>I think Qanqor already answered this, so if he already mentioned anything I
>say here, just ignore me. {{:)
>This was a nice attempt, but it has a few ewrrors in it. First is the use of
>the suffix -Qo' on a non-imperative verb. You can't do that. If you want to
>say "never", but in a non-imperative/command sense, use <not>. That is what
>it is there for. Also, the second part of the first sentence reads (ignoring
>the error with -Qo') "I never take a vacation because I need to WANT. The
>verb for to work is <vum>. So your first sentence should be:
> DaH poH'a' vIghajmo' jIghIQlaH 'ach jIvumqu'nISmo' not jIghIQ
I'm sorry, trI'Qal, I think you dropped the ball again here. (And I think
she's off-net for a few days so can't defend herself right away; sorry.
But it's my job to correct these things). "-Qo'" *CAN* be used on
non-imperatives. It's not just the imperative version of "-be'". It
indicates not just failure to be true, but someone's *refusal* to do
something. Canonical example: choja'Qo'chugh, Sect 4.3, "If you won't tell
me, if you refuse to tell me". I used "SopQo'ghach" to indicate a fast
once (the act/habit of not eating), since fasting isn't just not eating but
a voluntary refusal to eat (later changed to a verbalized form. btw). The
sentence here means "I won't take vacations because..." (as opposed to "I
don't take vacations"), i.e. I refuse to take them, it's more than just a
statement that I wind up not taking them. "not" works okay too, but it is
*NOT* incorrect to have "-Qo'" on a non-imperative.
>--HoD trI'Qal
~mark